Author Topic: Italian Lodge Claims John XXIII (Read 5067 times)

2Vermont · « **Reply #25 on:** July 11, 2022, 03:15:55 PM »

Quote from: epiphany on July 11, 2022, 03:14:26 PM

You stated:
"In addition, most [if not practically all] sedevacantists aren't focused on personal heresy or affiliations. They are focused on the fact that these men promulgate/profess/teach the Universal Church Vatican II's new non-Catholic religion."

To which i commented:
"Have you met "most [if not practically all] sedevecantists"?
Such statements have no value."

Now you are saying "I base my statements on my experience...", which means you should have qualified your original statement to indicate "based on my experience" rather than "most [if not practically all]" because you cannot know "most [if not practically all] sedevecantists".

You're funny.

josefamenendez · « **Reply #26 on:** July 11, 2022, 03:27:27 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on July 10, 2022, 10:57:25 AM

Something funny to you about this? If true, the difference is that Pius IX was converted (eventually being expelled by the Masons), whereas Roncalli actively promoted the Masonic agenda as "pope". Pius IX was converted by the grace of office due to protection of the papacy by the Holy Spirit. Had he not converted, God would have struck him down rather than allowing him to propagate error from the Holy See. Roncalli, on the other hand, was not legitimately elected, and that was the entire point of allowing Siri to be elected, forcing him out, and then planting the illegitimate imposter on the See. Masons / Communists / Jєωs who planned the entire thing knew full well that God would prevent a legitimate pope from destroying the Church. Perhaps they learned this precisely from the Pius IX scenario who once he had been elected was converted and turned on them.

agree

Donachie · « **Reply #27 on:** July 11, 2022, 06:35:29 PM »

I was informed a long time ago that John XXIII was a Freemason, and I've assumed the information was good; and then there was an old not-too-funny joke passed around by Walker Percy, that the only way John XXIII could go to Heaven was to die in his sleep because when he was awake he was always compromising with the communists.

I never heard this before, but it looks to me like Pius IX had a Freemasonic taint, but shook it off.

Endeavor to persevere, "nitimini perseverare", as Agricola used to say.

Incredulous · « **Reply #28 on:** July 11, 2022, 10:23:30 PM »

Quote from: Quo vadis Domine on July 10, 2022, 01:49:56 PM

This disgusting lie has been refuted…..see this thread:

https://www.cathinfo.com/general-discussion/slaves-of-dr-plinio-an-attack-refuted/msg654648/#msg654648

He was a trad Pope's trad Pope.

If he was naive or liberal, he corrected his errors.

Putting the jews back into the ghetto in the Papal States, was key to controlling subversion.

CathInfo.com

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