Author Topic: Novus Ordo Priests (Read 5752 times)

curiouscatholic23 · « **Reply #10 on:** October 12, 2011, 02:31:07 PM »

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If you truly hold the Sede position why would you ever be seen in the "monstrosity" that is a NO parish? The whole thing in your eyes is a grand illusion to drag people to hell.

Either be consistent across the board or abandon your position.

I "MIGHT" attend for a funeral/wedding of a family member. I still have not decided.

Before Vatican II catholics were allowed to attend non-catholic weddings, although I am unsure about funerals. So the idea of a catholic even entertaining the idea of walking into a non-catholic service like the bogus ordo is not some conciliar novelty.

aquinasnmore · « **Reply #11 on:** October 12, 2011, 03:08:41 PM »

The difference is that Protestants were open about their schism. If you are truly a Sede, you have to believe that the NO is intentionally trying to mislead people from the Truth by disguising itself as the True Church.

How could you possibly go to a funeral since you probably believe that the NO church doesn't have the same understanding about salvation that you do? It would all be a sham. By showing up you are saying you support what is going on.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #12 on:** October 12, 2011, 03:24:31 PM »

Quote from: aquinasmore

The difference is that Protestants were open about their schism. If you are truly a Sede, you have to believe that the NO is intentionally trying to mislead people from the Truth by disguising itself as the True Church.

Well, that's basically the case whether you're sede or not.

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How could you possibly go to a funeral since you probably believe that the NO church doesn't have the same understanding about salvation that you do? It would all be a sham. By showing up you are saying you support what is going on.

The SSPX says it's ok to attend NO weddings and funerals as long as you don't actively participate in the service.

TKGS · « **Reply #13 on:** October 12, 2011, 04:12:43 PM »

My answers to the questions (they might not be "right" but they're what I would do):

1. Address a Novus Ordo priest according to his title if you are speaking to him, e.g., Father Crackers, Bishop Blarney, if that's how you would normally address a Protestant minister with a title. If you are talking about a Novus Ordo priest, you should do the same. Remember to be courteous though one should not ignore facts if the subject of valid priesthood or heresy should come up. Please note that being attached to the Novus Ordo does not make one, by definition, a heretic.

2. If you are talking about the Novus Ordo priesthood (as a class and not individually), I refer to them on those few occasions that I do as Novus Ordo priests, but any sort of reference that indicates they are not traditional priests is acceptable.

3. When talking about claimants to the papal throne, I usually write, for example, Benedict 16 and say "Benedict sixteen". When talking about actual popes I would write, "Pope St. Pius X" or "Pope Leo XIII" (sometimes leaving the word "pope" out depending upon the context) and say, "Pope Benedict the Fifteenth".

4. As for confession, I have been told that one should make a general confession every few years anyway, and, while it is not possible for most people to remember every single sin confessed to a false priest, one can do they the best he can.

5. I have been in a Novus Ordo church. I am respectful. I don't talk on the cell (or even text). I keep my voice lowered in defference to others. I don't genuflect. In short, I act the same way I would in a Protestant church or a movie theatre. Be polite.

Emerentiana · « **Reply #14 on:** October 12, 2011, 04:35:17 PM »

Quote from: s2srea

Quote from: Vladimir
Also, what should a "sedevacantist" do inside a Novus Ordo church? Would he talk on his cell-phone since he doesn't believe that the Eucharist is present? Does he genuflect, or just walk out without making any external reverence?

If he is firm in his belief, then he wouldn't genuflect, etc. But by not doing so, he is only giving the other Novus Ordo Catholics a bad example to keep on following.

I'm never sure in a NO parish if Our Lord is truly present, but I act as if its so for 2 reasons:

1. As an example.
2. Just in case, since I'm no God.

We have to go back and remember the fact that ALL Novus Ordo Bishops today (except for a few 80+ year old bishops now retired) , have been consecrated by the invalid rite used after 1968.
Therefore....... the priests they conscrated are not valid priests
Therefore........... Our Lord is not present in their tabernacles.

To genuflect in their churches would not be an act of respect for the Blessed Sacrament, but an act of idoletry, since you are showing respect to a piece of bread.