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Offline Iuvenalis

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Notice he didnt pray
« on: October 01, 2013, 11:16:28 AM »
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    • Notice he didn't *pray*:

    " When the conclave elected me Pope. Before I accepted I asked if I could spend a few minutes in the room next to the one with the balcony overlooking the square. My head was completely empty and I was seized by a great anxiety. To make it go way and relax I closed my eyes and made every thought disappear, even the thought of refusing to accept the position, as the liturgical procedure allows. I closed my eyes and I no longer had any anxiety or emotion. At a certain point I was filled with a great light. It lasted a moment, but to me it seemed very long. Then the light faded, I got up suddenly and walked into the room where the cardinals were waiting and the table on which was the act of acceptance. I signed it, the Cardinal Camerlengo countersigned it and then on the balcony there was the “Habemus Papam”.”

    Definitely some other doozies in these quotes as well:
     http://www.ucatholic.com/blog/14-quotes-from-pope-francis-interview-with-la-repubblica/
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    Offline StCeciliasGirl

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    Notice he didnt pray
    « Reply #1 on: October 01, 2013, 01:57:17 PM »
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    • Of course not. He doesn't have anyone to pray to, according to him, same interview:

    Quote from: the imposter in white
    I believe in God, not in a Catholic God. There is no Catholic God; there is God, and I believe in Jesus Christ, his incarnation. Jesus is my teacher and my pastor, but God, the Father, Abba, is the light and the Creator. This is my being.


    The Mohammedan separation of God (definitely not the "Catholic God") and Jesus, Frank's teacher, is weird enough. But the God he professes to believe in is "his being". Him. Frank. Clearly, Frank would just be praying to himself if he were given to prayer. Too bad he doesn't just ask himself to give all the hungry some food, and all jobless a job. (And a fair job, with good wages.)

    Love how he says other Popes were "narcissistic" but he's "wise". WHOOPS your humble hat slipped there, Frank!
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    Offline Nadir

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    Notice he didnt pray
    « Reply #2 on: October 01, 2013, 05:27:07 PM »
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    • My first reaction: Is the Pope Buddhist?
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    Offline 2Vermont

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    « Reply #3 on: October 01, 2013, 06:32:58 PM »
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    • I noticed that he doesn't equate Jesus with God.  Pretty ironic (or maybe prophetic???).  This was the exact question I asked Laramie these past couple of days:  Would you still call a pope a true pope if he stated that Jesus wasn't God?
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    Offline pickoverthecliff

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    Notice he didnt pray
    « Reply #4 on: October 01, 2013, 06:37:08 PM »
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    • Did anyone else have the "bearer of light" come to mind during this particular passage while reading it?

    Catch my drift...
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    Offline Iuvenalis

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    « Reply #5 on: October 01, 2013, 08:11:05 PM »
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    • Quote from: pickoverthecliff
    Did anyone else have the "bearer of light" come to mind during this particular passage while reading it?

    Catch my drift...


    As a former Freemason, it caught my eye. He sure ain't referring to Prometheus.
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    Offline TheKnightVigilant

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    « Reply #6 on: October 02, 2013, 12:13:24 AM »
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    • I was intrigued by Francis' statement that "From my point of view, God is the light that illuminates the darkness, even if it does not dissolve it, and a spark of divine light is within each of us." He appears to equate God with the "divine light within each of us". It's like something straight out of the gnostic gospels.
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    Offline poche

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    Notice he didnt pray
    « Reply #7 on: October 02, 2013, 02:34:25 AM »
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    • Actually if God communicated Himself to him and inspired him to accept the papacy then that would be a form of contemplation.
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    Offline BTNYC

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    « Reply #8 on: October 02, 2013, 07:55:10 AM »
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    • Quote from: poche
    Actually if God communicated Himself to him and inspired him to accept the papacy then that would be a form of contemplation.


    And if "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts we'd all have a merry Christmas.
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    Notice he didnt pray
    « Reply #9 on: October 02, 2013, 08:00:48 AM »
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    • Quote from: Iuvenalis
    Quote from: pickoverthecliff
    Did anyone else have the "bearer of light" come to mind during this particular passage while reading it?

    Catch my drift...


    As a former Freemason, it caught my eye. He sure ain't referring to Prometheus.


    This caught mine, along those same lines (as I'm sure it did you):

    "The Son of God became incarnate in the souls of men to instill the feeling of brotherhood."

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    Notice he didnt pray
    « Reply #10 on: October 02, 2013, 08:46:42 AM »
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    • Quote from: poche
    Actually if God communicated Himself to him and inspired him to accept the papacy then that would be a form of contemplation.


    Contemplating what, exactly, Poche? Contemplating God? No, he was not. Maybe he was "contemplating" but not in the Christian sense. I agree with Nadir, it sounds Buddhist.

    Please stop making excuses for this man, Poche. Open your eyes!!!
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    Offline Jerry

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    Notice he didnt pray
    « Reply #11 on: October 02, 2013, 08:48:52 AM »
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    • This is similar to the constant spin of his being humble. His humility is much closer to that of Castro than St. Francis.
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    Offline Larry

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    Notice he didnt pray
    « Reply #12 on: October 02, 2013, 08:54:05 AM »
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    • Anyone who constantly makes it a point to say how humble he is really isn't humble. It's kind of like a proud "penitent" yelling "Where did I put my hairshirt?" in a room full of people. Completely self serving.
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    « Reply #13 on: October 02, 2013, 05:30:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: Larry
    Anyone who constantly makes it a point to say how humble he is really isn't humble. It's kind of like a proud "penitent" yelling "Where did I put my hairshirt?" in a room full of people. Completely self serving.


    Take heed that you do not your justice before men, to be seen by them: otherwise you shall not have a reward of your Father who is in heaven. Therefore when thou dost an almsdeed, sound not a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the ѕуηαgσgυєs and in the streets, that they may be honoured by men. Amen I say to you, they have received their reward.

    St Matthew 6:1-2

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    Offline Croix de Fer

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    Notice he didnt pray
    « Reply #14 on: October 02, 2013, 05:50:30 PM »
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    • Quote from: pickoverthecliff
    Did anyone else have the "bearer of light" come to mind during this particular passage while reading it?

    Catch my drift...


    Lucifer means "light bringing" or "the light of the morning". We know what became of Lucifer.
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    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)
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