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Offline Cantarella

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Re: Non-Believing Jew Ben Shapiro Gets a Free Pass to Heaven
« Reply #60 on: December 25, 2018, 11:37:10 PM »
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  • # 2 can't be talking about judaism,muslims,buddhists since they are not baptised...I'm assuming it's referring to protestants..no?..
    St. Thomas Aquinas, De Veritate, 14, A. 11, ad 1: Objection- “It is possible that someone may be brought up in the forest, or among wolves; such a man cannot explicitly know anything about the faith.  St. Thomas replies- It is the characteristic of Divine Providence to provide every man with what is necessary for salvation… provided on his part there is no hindrance.  In the case of a man who seeks good and shuns evil, by the leading of natural reason, God would either reveal to him through internal inspiration what had to be believed, or would send some preacher of the faith to him

    Yes, some Protestants, and also Eastern Orthodox, exclusively.

    Non-Christians are not baptized. Ben Shaphiro is not baptized.

    St. Thomas Aquinas mentions the possibility of even sending an Angel before the moment of death if necessary, to a non Christian who perseveres in seeking truth and strives to follow the natural moral law. God then gives him the Grace to repent of sin, explicitly believe at least the most basic truths of our Catholic Faith, be validly baptized, and thus be able to reach salvation and attain the Beatific Vision.
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.

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    Re: Non-Believing Jew Ben Shapiro Gets a Free Pass to Heaven
    « Reply #61 on: December 26, 2018, 12:31:18 AM »
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  • # 2 can't be talking about judaism,muslims,buddhists since they are not baptised...I'm assuming it's referring to protestants..no?..
    St. Thomas Aquinas, De Veritate, 14, A. 11, ad 1: Objection- “It is possible that someone may be brought up in the forest, or among wolves; such a man cannot explicitly know anything about the faith.  St. Thomas replies- It is the characteristic of Divine Providence to provide every man with what is necessary for salvation… provided on his part there is no hindrance.  In the case of a man who seeks good and shuns evil, by the leading of natural reason, God would either reveal to him through internal inspiration what had to be believed, or would send some preacher of the faith to him

    Good point, but I was talking about validly baptized Protties or even Catholics who convert to Buddhism, Islam, New Age, Hinduism and, some, even convert to Judaism such as Trump's daughter.

    It's a trend for Western sheeple to convert to these false religions. It's trendy to be Antichrist.
    From the woman came the beginning of sin, and by her we all die. ~ Ecclesiasticus 25:33

    International Women's Day is a day we all celebrate Eve's rebellion at the Tree and our plummet into sin.


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    Re: Non-Believing Jew Ben Shapiro Gets a Free Pass to Heaven
    « Reply #62 on: December 26, 2018, 11:04:53 AM »
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  • Any claim by Mr Shapiro's is based on his own ignorance. I think we should pray for his conversion every day and leave the judgement to God.
    Poche,

    Your posts border on the ludicrous.

    Shapiro is very likely an Israeli trained agent, posing as a media conservative.
    If you don't get what I'm saying, CNN's Wolf Blitzer, a Mossad news media operative is a pure play, Israeli propagandist.

    So hear you are, on a traditional Catholic forum, feeling sympathy for Ben Shapiro "ignorance" and evangelizing us to pray for his conversion.  You lack discernment in that, Shapiro instead, should be admonished by Catholics for the Talmudic heresy he's spreading over national news.  How many souls are being misled by such judaic trash theology?

    Yes, we pray for our enemies, the jews and I'll bet over 90% of Cathinfo's forum members pray for the conversion of sinners.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Non-Believing Jew Ben Shapiro Gets a Free Pass to Heaven
    « Reply #63 on: December 26, 2018, 12:05:00 PM »
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  • No one who maintains that much of a public presence is ignorant of the True Faith. It's not possible, and Ben Shapiro has no excuse.
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    Re: Non-Believing Jew Ben Shapiro Gets a Free Pass to Heaven
    « Reply #64 on: December 26, 2018, 02:18:53 PM »
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  • Trying to reason with Poche or expecting him to utter even a modicum of Catholic truth is like going to an aquarium, putting a copy of War and Peace in front of a dolphin and expecting it to read. Impossible.

    So, could it be said that poche is invincibly ignorant about the Catholic faith ... despite the fact that he hangs out on a Traditional Catholic forum?   :confused:


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    Re: Non-Believing Jew Ben Shapiro Gets a Free Pass to Heaven
    « Reply #65 on: December 26, 2018, 02:22:01 PM »
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  • So, could it be said that poche is invincibly ignorant about the Catholic faith ... despite the fact that he hangs out on a Traditional Catholic forum?   :confused:
    I suspect that Poche prays for *our* conversions.
    "For there is not any thing secret that shall not be made manifest, nor hidden, that shall not be known and come abroad."- Luke 8:17

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    Re: Non-Believing Jew Ben Shapiro Gets a Free Pass to Heaven
    « Reply #66 on: December 26, 2018, 02:41:45 PM »
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    Invincible ignorance
    God can't convert the invincible ignorant, but He can convert boulders into faithful Catholics:

    "For I tell you that God is able of these stones to raise up children to Abraham" ( Mat 3:9 )
    The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24

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    Re: Non-Believing Jew Ben Shapiro Gets a Free Pass to Heaven
    « Reply #67 on: December 26, 2018, 04:47:15 PM »
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  • I suspect that Poche prays for *our* conversions.

    :laugh1: ... that's most likely the case.


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    Re: Non-Believing Jew Ben Shapiro Gets a Free Pass to Heaven
    « Reply #68 on: December 27, 2018, 08:16:55 PM »
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  • Ben Shapiro looks like a demon.

    It definitely has to do with his phenotype and genotype (curse stemming from Matthew 27:25), and not being baptized with water and Spirit.

    Huh?

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    Re: Non-Believing Jew Ben Shapiro Gets a Free Pass to Heaven
    « Reply #69 on: December 27, 2018, 08:39:12 PM »
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  • I suspect that Poche prays for *our* conversions.


    https://forums.catholic.com/t/catholic-rites/304059/23


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    All the rites of the Catholic Church follow the magisterium of the Catholic church. they all follow Vatican II. They all recognise the pope.
     there is a rule in the catholic church that one bishop not ordain another bishop without a mandate from the pope. Archbishop Lefevre disobeyed Pope John Paul II and ordained foru bishops without this mandate.Therrefore, unfortunately there exists a schism as a result of Archbishop Levevre’s disobedience. There have been talks with the leadership of the sspx and the vatican where hopefully an arrangement can be made to regularize this unfortunate situation. Let us all pray that these talks are successful and that thsi situation can be regularized.


    https://forums.catholic.com/t/a-question/346501


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    One of those moments , me and another woman who had brought her children to confession went to the rectory and asked the priest to hear our confessions and he refused.
     In these cases, it is possible to go to a priest as schismatic SSPX ?



    https://forums.catholic.com/t/fsspx/349902/56


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    FSSPX and the SSPX are one and the same. They are not in communion with the Catholic Church. The FSSP is a different community and it is in full communion with the Catholic Church.



    https://forums.catholic.com/t/how-to-distinguish-churches-generally/447823/7


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    Quote: Throw a curveball in here: How should we classify the Old Catholics and the SSPX?

    Eventually they will be categorized as churches which have valid mass and the other sacraments. Let us pray for a reconciliation between these groups and the Catholic Church.


    https://forums.catholic.com/t/any-good-sedevacantist-debates/459214/3

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    Sedevacantism is a lie.


    https://forums.catholic.com/t/usefulness-of-sspx-to-the-church/525332/16

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    I think that the SSPX would be useful to the Church if they were in full communion with he rest of the Church.
    2 Corinthians 4:3-4

    And if our gospel be also hid, it is hid to them that are lost, In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of unbelievers, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not shine unto them.

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    Re: Non-Believing Jew Ben Shapiro Gets a Free Pass to Heaven
    « Reply #70 on: December 27, 2018, 08:44:03 PM »
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  • Ben Shapiro looks like a demon.

    It definitely has to do with his phenotype and genotype (curse stemming from Matthew 27:25), and not being baptized with water and Spirit.

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    Huh?


    https://www.cathinfo.com/anonymous-posts-allowed/are-jews-white/msg597667/#msg597667

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    The Jews, due to their racial curse stemming from the events in Matthew 27:25, have a distorted genotype and phenotype unlike any other race, the latter being why a person, who is tuned into the Jewish problem and has keen eyes, can usually identify a racial Jew, regardless if the Jew has blond hair, blue eyes & fair skin or black hair, brown eyes & olive skin, or anything in between, and regardless if the Jew is an implant in Russia, Portugal, Germany or Turkey.

    Only Baptism into Christ with water and Spirit, and sincere conversion, can lift the curse of the Jew, thereby, eliminating the Jews' predatory countenance, darkness, hollowedness, soullessness, hideousness & ugliness, by the Light of Christ in them. However, the genotype remains the same, just like any scar remains after a wound has healed.

    Th Jews aren't white. They pretend to be white as a means to convince real white people to revolt against their own self-preservation and interests. The Jews are inducers of hypnoses to host populations and observers who are apathetic to their own scandal & subjugation. The Jews are offspring of the Serpent in Genesis 3:15.
    2 Corinthians 4:3-4

    And if our gospel be also hid, it is hid to them that are lost, In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of unbelievers, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not shine unto them.


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    Re: Non-Believing Jew Ben Shapiro Gets a Free Pass to Heaven
    « Reply #71 on: December 27, 2018, 08:45:57 PM »
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  • https://www.cathinfo.com/general-discussion/gortan-was-banned/msg112438/#msg112438


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    He was a member here before, and I banned him once already. That alone is a ban-able offense.
    2 Corinthians 4:3-4

    And if our gospel be also hid, it is hid to them that are lost, In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of unbelievers, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not shine unto them.

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    Re: Non-Believing Jew Ben Shapiro Gets a Free Pass to Heaven
    « Reply #72 on: December 27, 2018, 11:38:06 PM »
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  • I suspect that Poche prays for *our* conversions.
    I ask that you pray for me.

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    Re: Non-Believing Jew Ben Shapiro Gets a Free Pass to Heaven
    « Reply #73 on: December 27, 2018, 11:56:54 PM »
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  • https://www.cathinfo.com/general-discussion/gortan-was-banned/msg112438/#msg112438

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    He was a member here before, and I banned him once already. That alone is a ban-able offense.

    I'm not the Hobgoblin. lol
    From the woman came the beginning of sin, and by her we all die. ~ Ecclesiasticus 25:33

    International Women's Day is a day we all celebrate Eve's rebellion at the Tree and our plummet into sin.

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    Re: Non-Believing Jew Ben Shapiro Gets a Free Pass to Heaven
    « Reply #74 on: December 28, 2018, 12:03:42 AM »
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  • I'm not the Hobgoblin. lol

    I quoted a forum rule, nothing more.

    Are you Croix de Fer?
    2 Corinthians 4:3-4

    And if our gospel be also hid, it is hid to them that are lost, In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of unbelievers, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not shine unto them.

     

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