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Offline JezusDeKoning

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Re: Non-Believing Jєω Ben Shapiro Gets a Free Pass to Heaven
« Reply #30 on: December 21, 2018, 12:04:47 AM »
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    • Quote from: poche on December 20, 2018, 11:30:56 PM
    And we should also promote the spread of that Faith.
    Yet, you're promoting a New Age religion where hell is empty and all one has to do to be saved is exist. You're not promoting the spread of Catholicism.
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    « Reply #31 on: December 21, 2018, 12:25:46 AM »
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    • Quote from: JezusDeKoning on December 21, 2018, 12:04:47 AM
    Yet, you're promoting a New Age religion where hell is empty and all one has to do to be saved is exist. You're not promoting the spread of Catholicism.
    I am not promoting a New Age religion where Hell is empty. If it were empty there would be no reason for it to exist. I am merely saying that without a particular revelation we cannot know for certain who is there and who is not.
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    « Reply #32 on: December 21, 2018, 12:42:34 AM »
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    • Quote from: poche on December 21, 2018, 12:25:46 AM
    I am not promoting a New Age religion where Hell is empty. If it were empty there would be no reason for it to exist. I am merely saying that without a particular revelation we cannot know for certain who is there and who is not.

    We don't read hearts, but what Our Lord said is straight and simple and we can take it to the bank:

    "He that believeth and is baptized, shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall be condemned."

    [Mark 16:16]
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    « Reply #33 on: December 21, 2018, 05:52:24 AM »
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    • Quote from: poche on December 20, 2018, 11:30:56 PM
    And we should also promote the spread of that Faith.
    What "faith" are you spreading? Your Vatican II "faith" is not necessary for salvation by your own admission. That is why the vast majority of Catholics have left the Church (less than 5% of Catholics go to mass in France and other European Catholic countries.), and it is of no interest to the rest of the world. You are basically a fool to real Catholics and to the world, just like "Bishop" Barron and all of the Vatican II church, just another false religion among thousands of others (World Day of Prayer for Peace of Assisi?)
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    « Reply #34 on: December 21, 2018, 10:32:02 AM »
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    • Poche, I would honestly say it’s impossible to say that in most countries people have heard the saying The Catholic Church is the only true church, and the only way to get to heaven.” Id even bet you have to go pretty far into jungle/Forrest to find someone who hasn’t met a Catholic missionary who has said it. The church is to concerned with being politically correct to save souls. They will pay for that. 

    Ben Shapiro is to smart for his own good, and that “bishop” fed into his game. Ben knows what the phoney should have said. 
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    « Reply #35 on: December 21, 2018, 10:40:08 AM »
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    • Quote from: poche on December 21, 2018, 12:25:46 AM
    I am not promoting a New Age religion where Hell is empty. If it were empty there would be no reason for it to exist. I am merely saying that without a particular revelation we cannot know for certain who is there and who is not.

    Particular individual, no ... since only God knows whether someone may have converted in their last moment through a special grace.  But we know out of principle that those who have no faith in Jesus Christ and the Holy Trinity cannot be saved.
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    « Reply #36 on: December 21, 2018, 01:32:17 PM »
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    • Oh, forgot about the "invincibly ignorant" forest Jєωs of Estonia.


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    Re: Non-Believing Jєω Ben Shapiro Gets a Free Pass to Heaven
    « Reply #37 on: December 21, 2018, 03:48:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: poche on December 20, 2018, 04:59:54 AM
    If his ignorance is invincible then it is possible for him to be saved by the baptism of desire.
    JUST STOP.   :really-mad2:
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    Re: Non-Believing Jєω Ben Shapiro Gets a Free Pass to Heaven
    « Reply #38 on: December 21, 2018, 03:53:52 PM »
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    • Quote from: poche on December 20, 2018, 04:59:54 AM
    If his ignorance is invincible then it is possible for him to be saved by the baptism of desire.
    Tell me, Poche, how does one desire something of which he is invincibly ignorant?
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    « Reply #39 on: December 22, 2018, 06:27:19 PM »
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    • Quote from: Maria Regina on December 19, 2018, 12:33:11 PM
    Wait!

    Wait just a moment!

    So, Father Barron gets a promotion to bishop after he states that "even atheists can make it to heaven."

    Wow!

    Blind leading blind.



    Didn't St. John Chrysostom state that in hell, the roads are paved with the skulls of priests, and the lampposts are the bishops?
    And for those who don't read the Church Fathers, then almost 1000 years later didn't Dante restate that in his Inferno?

    Isn't this why priests and bishops are to take very seriously their ordination and consecration?
    These men are called to serve the Church, and if they fail to lead Christ's flock to Heaven, then as false shepherds, they are damned to Hell.
    All Jєωs and atheists going to heaven, and his willingness to use his God given skills as a communicator, to spread heresy, guarantees him a post as a Conciliar TV bishop. Conciliar priests who make the mistake of saying or doing Catholic things like burning a rainbow flag raised by a sodomite priest who killed himself at the NO table in a deeply sordid way, or even basic things like reporting a pervert / corrupt (perverts are usually dishonest too) colleague, or preaching in a very mild way Catholic teaching on ѕυιcιdє, are deprived of their living, threatened with committal to a psychiatric hospital, and in one or two cases likely ѕυιcιdєd. They rarely are promoted, and if they were, are retired through the efforts of their Conciliar colleagues or the Argentine.
    Barron might find later that selling his soul for a mess of pottage, has a painful downside.
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    Re: Non-Believing Jєω Ben Shapiro Gets a Free Pass to Heaven
    « Reply #40 on: December 22, 2018, 07:28:33 PM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on December 21, 2018, 03:48:47 PM
    JUST STOP.   :really-mad2:
    Trying to reason with Poche or expecting him to utter even a modicuм of Catholic truth is like going to an aquarium, putting a copy of War and Peace in front of a dolphin and expecting it to read. Impossible.

    I can understand Catholic fora allowing non-Catholics if they're catechumens and about to be received in the next year. But Poche is not a Catholic, period. He's some type of neo-Lutheran with a fondness for the current Pope.
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    Re: Non-Believing Jєω Ben Shapiro Gets a Free Pass to Heaven
    « Reply #41 on: December 22, 2018, 08:59:19 PM »
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    • Ben Shapiro looks like a demon.

    It definitely has to do with his phenotype and genotype (curse stemming from Matthew 27:25), and not being baptized with water and Spirit.
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    « Reply #42 on: December 22, 2018, 09:18:41 PM »
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    • Quote from: Quid Retribuam Domino on December 22, 2018, 08:59:19 PM
    Ben Shapiro looks like a demon.

    It definitely has to do with his phenotype and genotype (curse stemming from Matthew 27:25), and not being baptized with water and Spirit.
    You're not wrong. He's only famous because there's so little Jєωιѕн Republicans. They're a group of people that vote liberal maybe 80% of the time. 
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    « Reply #43 on: December 22, 2018, 11:01:10 PM »
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    • Quote from: Quid Retribuam Domino on December 22, 2018, 08:59:19 PM
    Ben Shapiro looks like a demon.

    It definitely has to do with his phenotype and genotype (curse stemming from Matthew 27:25), and not being baptized with water and Spirit.

    And there seems to be something off with his voice...
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    « Reply #44 on: December 22, 2018, 11:09:48 PM »
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    • Quote from: Prayerful on December 22, 2018, 06:27:19 PM
    All Jєωs and atheists going to heaven, and his willingness to use his God given skills as a communicator, to spread heresy, guarantees him a post as a Conciliar TV bishop. Conciliar priests who make the mistake of saying or doing Catholic things like burning a rainbow flag raised by a sodomite priest who killed himself at the NO table in a deeply sordid way, or even basic things like reporting a pervert / corrupt (perverts are usually dishonest too) colleague, or preaching in a very mild way Catholic teaching on ѕυιcιdє, are deprived of their living, threatened with committal to a psychiatric hospital, and in one or two cases likely ѕυιcιdєd. They rarely are promoted, and if they were, are retired through the efforts of their Conciliar colleagues or the Argentine.
    Barron might find later that selling his soul for a mess of pottage, has a painful downside.

    Most heresies are invented and/or spread by once Catholic priests and bishops (Think Luther). In referring to those, Our Lord says:

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    15Beware of false prophets, who come to you in the clothing of sheep, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16By their fruits you shall know them. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit, and the evil tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can an evil tree bring forth good fruit. 19Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit, shall be cut down, and shall be cast into the fire. 20Wherefore by their fruits you shall know them.
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