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Matthew · « **on:** January 27, 2009, 11:22:20 AM »

Talk all you want about Bishop Williamson and the recent lifting of the excommunications.

Whatever people what to talk about, I'll let them talk about it here (within reason).

What good is a message board if you can't talk about the topics that are important to you?

(And yes, there is a point to all this -- "other Catholic fora" are currently forbidding discussion of Bishop Williamson)

Actually, since he made it a public statement, I'm going to quote it here. This is from Servitum, the owner of Angelqueen:

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I need a break from Bishop Williamson. For the time being, I'll be removing any Bishop Williamson threads I see. The AQ management has better things to do than spend 24/7 moderating threads having him as the subject.

Some here have waited two decades for the excomms to be removed. Instead of celebrating and popping the champagne we're spending our time answering to H.E.'s foolish and extremely poorly timed statements.

Not only has this been a problem for AQ, but trads and SSPX supporters the world over. A seminary in Germany has been raided and European District Superiors are having to be interviewed by police. Of course these thuggish tactics are reprehensible, but thus is the world.

FWIW, I know for a fact that most his colleagues in the society - high and low - are furious with him.

What should be done? His Excellency should issue and apology for the problems he's caused everyone, then crawl under a rock for a while until this all blows over.

As for me, I'm done with him here for quite some time.

I disagree that everyone "high and low" is furious with the good Bishop. I don't think Servitum knows that many SSPX priests or Faithful. He has a tendency to make broad generalizations based on a small sample.

I know he's full of it for one simple reason -- he disagrees with the Bishop on most things. He is NOT somehow the "most Catholic forum owner" just because he runs a forum with primarily SSPX members. On the contrary -- a bunch of the members there dislike Bishop Williamson.

They don't hold as much truth as the good Bishop -- so that is a mar on their "perfection" -- not necessarily sinful, but they certainly have a less than perfect love of the truth. Maybe it's the influence of the world?

I, however, applaud the Bishop as a modern-day Athanasius and a brave, virtuous truth-teller.

Matthew

Dawn · « **Reply #1 on:** January 27, 2009, 11:36:31 AM »

Thanks Matthew, why would they do this? Embarrasement because they are sooo very open-minded?
Well, my husband received an e-mail from an acquintance (Lutheran husband and his Jєωιѕн wife) slamming Andrew for being a part of a Church that would harbour such a man as Williamson. Andrew wants to know where he can begin to read what the good Bishop thinks and also, where I got the "idea's" about Jєωs controlling the world. So, while I do have a couple of books, where do you recommend I send his to start learning truth? Baby-steps I guess , then building.
Thanks for the advice

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #2 on:** January 27, 2009, 12:31:17 PM »

How about Judaism Discovered by Michael Hoffman, or Judaism's Strange Gods, by the same author? Or the Gospel? St. John Chrysostom's sermons on the Jєωs? Try Fr. Fahey's works, Fr. Cahill; search the Christian Book Club site - http://www.omnicbc.com Mr. Serpico has been gathering outstanding titles for decades.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #3 on:** January 27, 2009, 12:34:00 PM »

The CBC site has several good titles on the myth of the 6M, etc. The good man I mentioned, Mr. Serpico, even dug through his stacks to find me a copy of the Catechism of Trent he put out 20 year ago. It is a better translation than McHugh and Callan, done by an Irish priest in 1829. There is LOTS of evidence on-line, too. Google away, and the truth just might find you.

sedetrad · « **Reply #4 on:** January 27, 2009, 12:41:33 PM »

Servitum is acting like a gutless coward. The Williamson haters are also gutless cowards giving into the world and Christ's enemies. They will answer for this at their judgement.

sedetrad · « **Reply #5 on:** January 27, 2009, 12:44:18 PM »

It is because of such cowards such as these that Jєωry is kept in bondage to the тαℓмυd and the rabbis because they lack the courage to spread the truth. As what would be considered an "ethnic Jєω", they make me sick.

Matthew · « **Reply #6 on:** January 27, 2009, 12:54:38 PM »

That's a good point -- by speaking the truth about the Jєωs, he is actually doing them more of a favor than the Neo-Cons, who favor everything Israel does, but do nothing to remove the veil from their eyes and hearts.

Dawn · « **Reply #7 on:** January 27, 2009, 01:18:38 PM »

Thanks for the ideas. And, believe me I am figuring out how to afford Michael's Book. I think I will have him dig around there. I forgot about the CBC.
I think the most sickening headline I have read to date regarding Williamson was that the Vatican was rebuking him. I gave up on Angelqueen a while ago. There form of censorship smacked of Uncle Joe's Russia. I was proud to be "banned." As far as FE goes, well, they are more worried of keeping up to date on the latest sin's of the flesh as the Blessed Virgin referred to such things. It is kind of like Cosmo magazine if you ask me.
The world is about to get another wake up call. If Netanyahu (sp) wins the election ( and there is no reason to think otherwise at this point) he will ratchet up attacks on Palestine and most likely Iran. This much to the dismay of the Great Obama, who wishes peace with "his people" after the "Mistakes America has made." The will see Israel's rabid fangs.
Oh well, that is another thread I guess.

sedetrad · « **Reply #8 on:** January 27, 2009, 02:07:13 PM »

I forgot about Netanyahu's coming election. This should be fun.

roscoe · « **Reply #9 on:** January 27, 2009, 02:32:04 PM »

One would probably do well to stay away from Hoffman as he is a v2 'catholic'. His patrner Mr Hiembichner is a friend of the v2 mr Vennari. Lots of exposing of judaics but no Real Presence.

Isabella of Spain by Walsh is my favorite. Right now I am reading Boase-- Boniface Eighth=== also highly recommended.

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gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #10 on:** January 27, 2009, 02:34:44 PM »

Quote from: Dawn

And, believe me I am figuring out how to afford Michael's Book.

I know him, and would be happy to see if he will give it you at cost. Even if he cannot, I will gladly buy it, or part of it, for you.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #11 on:** January 27, 2009, 02:37:10 PM »

Quote from: roscoe

One would probably do well to stay away from Hoffman as he is a v2 'catholic'.

As someone who has met him, and discussed involved matters of religion, etc., at length, I have to tell you some bad news: You do not know what the hell you are talking about. He is brilliant and kind, and, as you are unable to edit, you owe him an apology.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #12 on:** January 27, 2009, 02:38:14 PM »

Quote from: sedetrad

I forgot about Netanyahu's coming election. This should be fun.

02.10.09 - Get ready, folks.

sedetrad · « **Reply #13 on:** January 27, 2009, 03:50:38 PM »

Roscoe, you are quite wrong. Mr. Hoffman is a traditional Catholic that attend a SSPX chapel with his family.

roscoe · « **Reply #14 on:** January 27, 2009, 03:55:34 PM »

Hopefully GV is correct and I owe mr Hoffman an apology. However--1) Mr Hoffman's site attacks the Challoner version of the Douay Rhiems Bible( as does TCW btw)

2) While this may sound like a broken record to some, Mr Hoffman's friends--Mr Hiembichner and Mr Vennari( among others) are still holding to the preposterous idea that Card Rampolla was a 'secret occult mason in the OTO'. This is nothing less than an attack on the character of Popes Leo XIII, St Pius X as well as Card Merry Del Val. One might as well attack St Athanasius, St Ambrose or even St Thomas and imo, you might as well throw the whole Church away at that point.

I hope Mr Hoffman is a true Catholic