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Offline Ladislaus

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NO Eucharistic Miracles?
« on: March 25, 2025, 11:20:22 AM »
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  • So here's one that US scientists have debunked, and you'll notice the uncanny similarity betweeh this one and BOTH the alleged Polish ones.  In ALL 3 CASES, the "Host" had been dropped onto the floor, and then later placed in a little container of water to dissolve.

    https://spiritdaily.org/blog/news/archdiocese-says-bacteria-caused-eucharistic-miracle

    https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/262927/indianapolis-archdiocese-lab-results-indicate-discolored-host-was-not-miraculous

    So the one from the Archdiocese of Indianapolis was actually tested, and they found that the red marks were caused by bacteria.  That's actually what the colleagues of that female "scientist" in Poland suggested for those "miracles" as well ... but they were drowned out by those who "want to believe".

    Online Giovanni Berto

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    Re: NO Eucharistic Miracles?
    « Reply #1 on: March 25, 2025, 11:54:41 AM »
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  • Good catch.

    I am glad that they were not deliberate. At least people were not acting in bad faith.


    Offline Angelus

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    Re: NO Eucharistic Miracles?
    « Reply #2 on: March 25, 2025, 12:12:14 PM »
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  • And don't forget the man who started it all: Jorge Mario Bergoglio, the first non-priest to usurp the Papacy.

    https://www.magiscenter.com/blog/the-eucharistic-miracle-pope-francis

    Here is the important thing. The reason these Novus Ordo "Eucharistic Miracles" are pushed so hard by the Bergoglianos is that some people correctly doubt the validity of the Novus Ordo Eucharists.

    The Eucharistic Sacrifice requires matter, form, and intention of a valid Priest.  These fake Eucharistic "miracles" are the counter-narrative to contradict what we all know on Cathinfo: that one of the reasons the Novus Ordo "Eucharists" are invalid (nothing but a wheat thin) is because the presiders are not real Priests.

    Interestingly, this debate over the validity or invalidity of the Eucharistic Sacrifice was pre-figured in the story of Elijah in his competition with the "false prophets of Baal" on Mount Carmel [3 Kings, chapter 18]. The false prophets were unable to make "fire come down from heaven" which proved that they were "false prophets." Again, the issue was not the ceremony or the offering, specifically. The issue was the "priest" offering the sacrifice. Elijah was a true priest, chosen by God.

    Bergoglio, the Antichrist, tries to perform a magic trick with his fake Eucharistic Miracles. Through a kind of ecclesiastical sleight of hand, Bergoglio makes it appear as if the Novus Ordo Eucharists are acceptable to God and are offered by real Priests. This magic trick is referred to in Apocalypse 13:13:

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    13 And he did great signs, so that he made also fire to come down from heaven unto the earth in the sight of men.

    In other words, the false prophets in the end times will appear to do what Jezebel's false prophets could not do. This is what the Bergoglioan obsession with Novus Ordo Eucharistic Miracles is all about. This is why the teenager Carlo Acutis is being made a "fake saint" by the "fake Pope." And it is why it is so harmful to Catholic souls, if their leaders say that the false Novus Ordo presbyters confect the true Eucharist, as the SSPX, for example, states over and over.

    The New Rite non-priests cannot confect a true Eucharist. It is impossible for them to do it, even if they say the TLM. Therefore, in the ceremonies that they preside over, they are not offering Jesus Christ to God the Father. They are offering mere bread and wine, the fruits of the earth, the works of human hands. The New Rite priest offers the sacrifice that Cain offered, the one that was displeasing to God.
     

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    Re: NO Eucharistic Miracles?
    « Reply #3 on: March 25, 2025, 12:50:34 PM »
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  • This magic trick is referred to in Apocalypse 13:13:

    In other words, the false prophets in the end times will appear to do what Jezebel's false prophets could not do. 

    Nice insight. 

    They will have some deceived, in believing that God is with them, as he is with his true prophets. 
    Rom. 3:25 Whom God hath proposed to be a propitiation, through faith in his blood, to the shewing of his justice, for the remission of former sins" 

    Apoc 17:17 For God hath given into their hearts to do that which pleaseth him: that they give their kingdom to the beast, till the words of God be fulfilled.

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    Re: NO Eucharistic Miracles?
    « Reply #4 on: Today at 08:41:28 AM »
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  • So, it is even much worse than most people realize, and the answer is sadly staring them right in the face...

    Take this woman for instance;

    Stacy Trasancos, PhD

    Stacy A. Trasancos, PhD is the author of Particles of Faith: A Catholic Guide to Navigating Science and co-author of Behold It Is I: Scripture, Tradition, and Science on the Real Presence. She is an Adjunct Professor for Seton Hall University's Catholic Studies Program and at Holy Apostles College & Seminary. Her upcoming book, IVF is Not the Way: The False Promises of Artificial Procreation will be published by Sophia Institute Press in Summer 2025.

    https://holyapostles.edu/faculty/dr-stacy-trasancos/

    She seems to be a highly respected person in her field - but sadly is all enmeshed in the concillar church...

    For this reason, it seems she would actually have NOTHING to gain by being opposed to all the post-1965 "Eucharistic miracles".

    Actually, it would logically follow that, speaking up about this could have a negative effect on her career...

    Anyway, Sammons (as most here know) is a shill for Trad Inc. and a Fr. Robinson-modernist-evolutionist-lover as he admitted as much when he interviewed him and agreed with what trash Fr. Robinson presented (its on his YouTube).

    But why bring up Sammons?

    Well this lady above - She wrote an article for Sammons about 2 months before +Williamson died...

    What she has been working on - would most likely have healed the rift between +Williamson and Fr. Hewko - had the bishop come across it before his earthly demise...

    https://crisismagazine.com/opinion/exaggerations-and-eucharistic-miracles

    In the Trumpet video that was "banned"/removed yesterday (which you can find on YouTube anyway) - +Williamson is very disparaging of a group of faithful who are questioning him about these alleged "miracles". He patronizingly tells them, "You have to follow the evidence." "I don't start with my conclusion and work backward to my premises." "I don't say the new mass is evil therefore the miracles must be false - I have to follow the objective evidence."

    Of course he is right - that is how to reason through things.

    AND

    To his credit - the evidence LOOKS convincing at first glance...

    I mean they have created a whole BRAND around this poor Carlos Acutis kid. The "saint of Eucharistic miracles".

    They got him in a glass case all pumped up with preservatives - dressed in his iconic Tommy Hilfiger sweater, jeans, sneakers, tousled hair, etc. looking like a serene and peaceful cherub. It is rather sickening actually, because it isn't like he didn't come from $$$. Why do they insist on presenting that casual image of him. Making a spectacle of him like that. It is to make him look "average", "normal", so the regular modernist Catholic can "relate" and be "inspired". It is all quite deceptive and evil...

    So, there is a connection here - they need to PUSH THESE FALSE MIRACLES on the masses of the clueless...

    This lady has blog too with articles investigating each of the supposed new mass Eucharistic miracles - she actually goes around and speaks to people about why these miracles may NOT be true based on the EVIDENCE.
    https://stacytrasancos.substack.com/p/dr-zugibe-and-the-living-heart-tissue

    What I found last night was that before 1970 none of these DNA tests had ever been done...For almost ALL the new miracles they claim it is AB blood and/or cardiac tissue...

    The one in Argentina in the 90's was approved by none other than Bergs himself...

    Anyway - the 1st article link above is relatively short - but here are the highlights;





    So, not only does this woman's findings scentifically vindicate Fr. Hewko and all others who refused to fall for this hoax of fake "Eucharistic miracles."

    It proves just how imprudent +Williamson was in this regard, and that Fr. Hewko was right to follow his conscience and refuse to subscribe to them.

    The idea that the concillar church could be trusted to redo all their tests on all these objects is absurd.

    The idea that the concilar church would even follow what this woman (and others) are calling for is absurd.

    The concilar church is 100% invested in their lies - and it is lies that keep the charade going.

    They will never perform these confirmatory/procedural sound tests.

    They have a brand to sell.

    So in the end +Williamson got taken for a ride and sadly he tried to drag others along with him.

    But maybe all this should just be swept under the rug - thrown in the closet - passed over in silence right?

    Let more people fall for these lies - right?

    It is real imprudence/ lack of charity/ and an objective evil (lack of the good) to say to someone, "Publicly validate these suspect "miracles" because the concillar church vetted them with "evidence", or I won't hold communion with you"  (Which God could care less if one says they are in communion with someone else - but they refuse to show them charity. The Eucharist is the ultimate sign of Charity and unity. "Leave there thy offering before the altar, and go first to be reconciled to thy brother: and then coming thou shalt offer thy gift."

    VERSUS

    Those who honestly refuse to name a manifest public heretic in the Canon of Holy Mass as their visible head and one in Orthodox faith - which is a lie they tell or participate in at the holiest moment this side of eternity...

    The first is a compromise - objectively speaking - the second is fidelity to the sacramental signification and Christ.

    I argue that it is compromise on that point that actually leads people to adopt errors - such as believing in the new "Eucharistic miracles" post-Vatican II.

    Again, people will find any number of worthless, meaningless, baseless things to distract themselves from questions of actual importance such as, "Does God expect me to profess communion with these heretics?"