Author Topic: No Crisis in the Church? by Simon Galloway (Read 2331 times)

monka966 · « **on:** September 22, 2015, 09:57:53 AM »

Does anyone know if this book can be purchased anywhere? It seem it has been out-of-stock for quite a while. Thank you and God bless.

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #1 on:** September 22, 2015, 10:06:25 AM »

Check Amazon and EBay, not available.

Paper Back, wonder how many were printed?

clare · « **Reply #2 on:** September 22, 2015, 10:07:02 AM »

I gather Novus Ordo Watch are selling some. Or they were a few weeks ago.

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #3 on:** September 22, 2015, 11:01:44 AM »

I found one and you will NOT LIKE THE PRICE. Wait until it is reprinted,
Perhaps in time it will be online, and a kindle edition.
Unless you are very wealthy.

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AJNC · « **Reply #4 on:** September 22, 2015, 11:41:31 AM »

Quote from: monka966

Does anyone know if this book can be purchased anywhere? It seem it has been out-of-stock for quite a while. Thank you and God bless.

http://traditioninaction.org/Questions/B629_Irish.html#simon

Withdrawing No Crisis in the Church

Hello Father Somerville,

I was just browsing the web and discovered your great review of my book No Crisis in the Church.

I thought you should know that the book is no longer in print and was withdrawn for personal reasons.

I would be grateful if you could update your website.

Kind Regards and God Bless,

Simon Galloway
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RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #5 on:** September 22, 2015, 02:07:24 PM »

I never owned a copy. It is so sad that the book was withdrawn by
the author.
Even if I had the money, I would not pay over $2,200 to own just
the paper back edition.

Mysterium Fidei · « **Reply #6 on:** September 22, 2015, 02:11:20 PM »

Quote from: RomanCatholic1953

I never owned a copy. It is so sad that the book was withdrawn by
the author.
Even if I had the money, I would not pay over $2,200 to own just
the paper back edition.

Is that what the book is going for on Amazon or Ebay? Did someone actually pay $2200.00 for this book, because I have the book in mint, unread condition and I'm pretty sure I would be willing to part with it for 2200 bucks.

Catholictrue · « **Reply #7 on:** September 22, 2015, 05:56:03 PM »

There's no point to get No Crisis in the Church? by Simon Galloway. About 80 to 95% of the content in the book (e.g. quotes, research, etc.) was plagiarized/copied from the research and published works of Bros. Michael and Peter Dimond of Schism House.

Galloway even admits that near the beginning of the book. He says: "In No Crisis in the Church? I have drawn on the Church council and papal quotes collected by Bros Michael and Peter Dimond O.S.B. of the Holy Family Monastery, 4425 Schneider Rd., Fillmore, NY, 14735 and which can be seen on their website www.holyfamilymonastery.com and in various volumes of their printed work... for which we owe them a great debt of gratitude." (Acknowledgments, XVIII).

Note that Galloway deliberately put MHFM's website name and monastery name down incorrectly. He refers to it as 'Holy Family Monastery', instead of Schism House. Likewise, he lists the website as www.holyfamilymonastery.com, when 'most' should be in the address. He deliberately put the name and website down incorrectly so that readers of the book would be less likely to find the correct website and organization and see that almost his entire book is the work product of another group: MHFM and the Dimonds.

So, obviously there's no point in getting a book when you can get MHFM's material, and view the work of the real authors and researchers of the information.

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #8 on:** September 22, 2015, 06:15:15 PM »

Quote from: Mysterium Fidei

Quote from: RomanCatholic1953
I never owned a copy. It is so sad that the book was withdrawn by
the author.
Even if I had the money, I would not pay over $2,200 to own just
the paper back edition.

Is that what the book is going for on Amazon or Ebay? Did someone actually pay $2200.00 for this book, because I have the book in mint, unread condition and I'm pretty sure I would be willing to part with it for 2200 bucks.

I went to the Novus Ordo Watch site, went to the bookstore, and clicked
the www.bookfinder.com tab and filled out the name of the book and the
author. The only available book came up and the price. It does not give
the name of the seller and the address.
I checked Amazon and EBay and none are available at any price.

monka966 · « **Reply #9 on:** September 22, 2015, 08:54:38 PM »

Thank you all for responding, and thank you Catholictrue for the relevant details. The reason why I asked about this book in the first place was because I would find it (amazon.ca for example) insanely expensive, and there was no way that I could justify buying it. As a side note, I wonder what made Mr. Galloway withdraw the book? God bless.

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #10 on:** September 22, 2015, 10:50:55 PM »

Quote from: monka966

Thank you all for responding, and thank you Catholictrue for the relevant details. The reason why I asked about this book in the first place was because I would find it (amazon.ca for example) insanely expensive, and there was no way that I could justify buying it. As a side note, I wonder what made Mr. Galloway withdraw the book? God bless.

That question was previously answered on this thread. MHFM was
plagiarizing this work by Mr. Galloway, if true and verified. Is
theft. All authors copyright their works.
There is a usually a disclaimer that it may by OK to quote an author
work if the author is given credit.
Another reason, since he is a convert. He may have drifted to
the Novus Ordo. And wanted to break from his traditional past.

You may still find this book. Just call and visit used book stores.
In Long Beach, Ca. There was the Acres of Books that had
thousands and thousands of out of print books
With regrets they are out of business.

Catholictrue · « **Reply #11 on:** September 23, 2015, 11:11:09 AM »

No, 'RomanCatholic53', you have it backwards. You wrote: "MHFM was
plagiarizing this work by Mr. Galloway..." It's the other way around: Galloway plagiarized MHFM's work. Galloway admitted that the quotes came from MHFM and the Dimonds, as I cited.

I previously wrote:

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There's no point to get No Crisis in the Church? by Simon Galloway. About 80 to 95% of the content in the book (e.g. quotes, research, etc.) was plagiarized/copied from the research and published works of Bros. Michael and Peter Dimond of MHFM.

Galloway even admits that near the beginning of the book. He says: "In No Crisis in the Church? I have drawn on the Church council and papal quotes collected by Bros Michael and Peter Dimond O.S.B. of the Holy Family Monastery, 4425 Schneider Rd., Fillmore, NY, 14735 and which can be seen on their website www.holyfamilymonastery.com and in various volumes of their printed work... for which we owe them a great debt of gratitude." (Acknowledgments, XVIII).

Note that Galloway deliberately put MHFM's website name and monastery name down incorrectly. He refers to it as 'Holy Family Monastery', instead of Most... Likewise, he lists the website as www.holyfamilymonastery.com, when 'most' should be in the address. He deliberately put the name and website down incorrectly so that readers of the book would be less likely to find the correct website and organization and see that almost his entire book is the work product of another group: MHFM and the Dimonds.

So, obviously there's no point in getting a book when you can get MHFM's material, and view the work of the real authors and researchers of the information.
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RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #12 on:** September 23, 2015, 08:25:57 PM »

Quote from: Catholictrue

No, 'RomanCatholic53', you have it backwards. You wrote: "MHFM was
plagiarizing this work by Mr. Galloway..." It's the other way around: Galloway plagiarized MHFM's work. Galloway admitted that the quotes came from MHFM and the Dimonds, as I cited.

I previously wrote:

----
There's no point to get No Crisis in the Church? by Simon Galloway. About 80 to 95% of the content in the book (e.g. quotes, research, etc.) was plagiarized/copied from the research and published works of Bros. Michael and Peter Dimond of MHFM.

Galloway even admits that near the beginning of the book. He says: "In No Crisis in the Church? I have drawn on the Church council and papal quotes collected by Bros Michael and Peter Dimond O.S.B. of the Holy Family Monastery, 4425 Schneider Rd., Fillmore, NY, 14735 and which can be seen on their website www.holyfamilymonastery.com and in various volumes of their printed work... for which we owe them a great debt of gratitude." (Acknowledgments, XVIII).

Note that Galloway deliberately put MHFM's website name and monastery name down incorrectly. He refers to it as 'Holy Family Monastery', instead of Most... Likewise, he lists the website as www.holyfamilymonastery.com, when 'most' should be in the address. He deliberately put the name and website down incorrectly so that readers of the book would be less likely to find the correct website and organization and see that almost his entire book is the work product of another group: MHFM and the Dimonds.

So, obviously there's no point in getting a book when you can get MHFM's material, and view the work of the real authors and researchers of the information.
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I must apologize. I read it wrong. My error.