After returning from the Holy Land (interesting timing, eh? ... after fraternizing with various rabbis and Netanyahu et al.), Francis announced that Pius XII can't be beatified yet due to a lack of miracle.

http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=21540

Montini remains on track for October though.

While I personally think that the Pius XII papacy was so troublesome and problematic for the Church that he should not be canonized, how much more can that be said of JP2 and J23?

It's more of the mind-boggling sycophancy of today's Roman authorities to the perfidious Jєωs. Leaving aside for a moment traditional issues relating to Pius XII, the charges they make are not only a grave slander and calumny, they are miserable ingrates for claiming it, as the simple and incontrovertible historical fact is that Pius XII personally saved thousands of Jєωιѕн lives.

The Jєωs ought to kneel at the feet of Pope Pius XII and thank him for his courageous actions during the War, as in fact many of them at one time did. Those who are just ignorant of what happened have swallowed a Communist defamation of the Holy Father that first began to be circulated in the 60s, long after teh well docuмented praise for Pius XII in the 40s even from the Jєωs themselves, which those who are malicious have wilfully perpetrated.

This is from DICI some years ago, Fr. Gumpel also has refuted the ridiculous charge that there are no miracles attributed to Pius XII, as a matter of fact there have been several.

Fr. Gumpel voiced his opposition to “the continual attacks by communists, freemasons and all the groups opposed to the Catholic Church,” with regard to the pope Eugenio Pacelli. In order to “demonstrate the falseness of the black stories” which are circulating about this pope, the Jesuit Father pointed out that “more than half a million Jєωs had been saved” thanks to Pius XII, a fact which “nobody can deny.”

This statement is supported by the American Rabbi David G. Dalin: “The pope and Christendom cannot be accused of having collaborated with the nαzιs,” since “many Jєωs were saved by the Church, and particularly thanks to the intervention of Pius XII.” Rabbi Dalin said that 3,000 Jєωs had been hidden at Castel Gandolfo and thousands of others in the religious congregations of Rome and buildings of the Holy See, thus allowing them to escape from the massive raid on the Jєωs of Rome in October 1943."

Two statements from Jєωιѕн Rabbis during the War corroborate this,

Isaac Herzog, a Rabbi in Jerusalem stated, "The people of Israel will never forget what His Holiness and his illustrious delegates, inspired by the eternal principles of religion which form the very foundations of true civilization, are doing for us unfortunate brothers and sisters in the most tragic hour of our history, which is living proof of divine Providence in this world."

Israel Zolli, a Rabbi who converted to Christianity and took the name Eugenio in honor of Pope Pius XII said, "What the Vatican did will be indelibly and eternally engraved in our hearts. . . . Priests and even high prelates did things that will forever be an honor to Catholicism."

So the Jєωιѕн defamation of Pius XII is a shameless lie and is contradicted by their betters and forbears, many of whom publicly thanked the Church, and some of whom in gratitude opened up to studying the Faith and by the grace of God became Christian.

Of course he won't be beatified (or canonized) by the Conciliar sect.  How can what he did for the Jєωs during World War II, saving so many lives and all, and speaking out against nαzιsm in Mit Brennender Sorge compete with the false history depicted in the play, The Deputy?

Frankly, it's an insult to the memory of any Catholic to be beatified or canonized by the Modernists.

This council will conclude with the heroic pope and council fathers canonizing Pius XII by acclamation.

No, I don't think so.  Even if Pius XII led a virtuous life, he still set into motion most of what led to Vatican II.  You can't separate Pius XII and Vatican II enough.  Pius XII installed and promoted many of the modernists who would bring us Vatican II.  He enabled Bugnini's liturgical experimentations.  He opened the door on evolution, and ecuмenism (sponsoring some ecuмenical dialogues), and NFP, etc.  He failed to consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary and to reveal the Third Secret of Fatima.  Perhaps that's why no miracles can be found through his intercession.  Of course, the modernists don't care enough about him to manufacture any either, as they did for J23 and JP2.

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He failed to consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary and to reveal the Third Secret of Fatima.

I just wanted to say here that although Pope Pius XII did not reveal the third secret, he did consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. He just did it by himself and without all the Bishops so the Fatima supporters like Father Gruner think it wasn't good enough and the consecration needs to be done again with all the bishops.

Our Lady requested that it be done in union with all the bishops of the world.  It was intended to be very public so as to honor Our Blessed Mother and so that the world would clearly attribute the subsequent miraculous conversion of Russia to Her Immaculate Heart.  Instead Pius XII buried it in some minor missive of his.

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I thought Francis waived the miracle requirement for John XXIII ?

Or did the 'miracle' of the new pentecost of Vatican II count as his miracle ?

He waived the second miracle I believe.  He is saying Pius XII has NO miracles.

He also waived the requirement to have heroic virtue and even to be Catholic.

The Bishop of Rome Frances did not check Google, I found at lease
two miracles of Pope Pius Xll.  I posted them on the first page of this
thread.
No one that has responded to this thread has bother to see the links!
He is either ignorant or made a deliberate false statement.

The Bishop of Rome Frances did not check Google, I found at lease
two miracles of Pope Pius Xll.  I posted them on the first page of this
thread.
No one that has responded to this thread has bother to see the links!
He is either ignorant or made a deliberate false statement.

Vatican dismissed the cancer cure miracle because the woman had received chemo ... at least that was their reasoning.  In point of fact, that Pius XII miracle involved an anti-miracle of JP2 (they had been praying to JP2, but JP2 appeared to them in a dream saying that he couldn't help them but to go to Pius XII instead).

That other one isn't a miracle that happened after Pius XII's death, which is necessary for canonization.