Author Topic: NO "Church" and cults (Read 2151 times)

Pelly · « **on:** February 05, 2013, 02:23:05 PM »

I've read about Svali, a self-proclaimed ex-cultist and born-again Christian. She claims that she was raised into a sect called the "Family" which had connection with the Illuminati. She claims that at the age 12, she was taken to the Vatican to attend an initiation ceremony. Though she claims that it's not her intent to "bash" the Catholic Church, I have to ask questions:
- is these things that she is saying is true?
- if it is true, has it something to do with the Masonic infiltration and NO (she claims that she was in the sect for 30 years)?
After examining her writings, it allegedly turned out that the Illuminati mourn the sinking of Atlantis, and there is a plan for 2012. This prediction failed, unless it was the Olympics (though she claimed that they changed dates).
It's getting clear that the Masonic destruction of the Church is ongoing and historical evidences support the Church. I've read things that the Illuminati make a vow in which they renounce all of the sacraments. I've heard about John Todd, who claimed to be raised in a witchcraft family, but I need clarification on this.

Pelly · « **Reply #1 on:** February 06, 2013, 03:23:54 AM »

I want clarification for this, I think that it can ruin my faith despite the evidences.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #2 on:** February 06, 2013, 08:00:24 AM »

The Roman Catholic Church is the Spotless Bride of Christ.

The Gates of Hell shall not prevail. Holy Mother Church is made up of the Church Triumphant (countless souls in Heaven) the Church Suffering (countless souls in Purgatory who will eventually be in Heaven) and the Church Militant (countless Catholics alive today).

The Devil has been trying to take down the Church since forever. Devils want you to doubt, they want you to think that the infiltration by warlocks and witches into the Church can wreck Her.

As horrible as the demonic forces are against the Church they will never win. We have the word of God. Better to read faith-building material than stuff by Svali. Learn what happened to St. Erasmus (St. Elmo) and how he never lost his Faith. He had it worse than Svali.

May God bless you, and I hope you have a faith-building Lent.

songbird · « **Reply #3 on:** February 06, 2013, 09:48:39 AM »

I have read many books and the catholic church is infiltrated with Masonic. BUT the church that Christ founded will not. That is why you read of the traditionalists. Matthew 24, Christ's words tells us what to expect and Christ refers His apostles to Daniel the prophet, so read Chapter 12. Chapter 12 states that there will be a remnant(the church that Christ founded) and the remnant will be tried and there will be much tribulation and the continual sacrifice will end and how long it will last. Elizabeth is right that "Christ's church, no matter what number, will always be", but what we see in New Order is of man, and not of Christ. NO is a hoax and for those who are still there, I pray for them to get out. There are no sacraments, that is no Precious Blood. Blood is Life, and we need this blood to enter heaven, by far!

Pelly · « **Reply #4 on:** February 06, 2013, 10:38:02 AM »

Warlocks in the Church can prove the thesis of the Masonic infiltration, also the 33-step Masonic plan says that sacred altars should be replaced with altars suitable for human sacrifice. I think that it supports the written Third Secret recently leaked, which states is Rome continues its' abomination, it'd be destroyed and the Seat will be moved to Fatima.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #5 on:** February 06, 2013, 01:09:30 PM »

Quote from: Pelly

Warlocks in the Church can prove the thesis of the Masonic infiltration, also the 33-step Masonic plan says that sacred altars should be replaced with altars suitable for human sacrifice. I think that it supports the written Third Secret recently leaked, which states is Rome continues its' abomination, it'd be destroyed and the Seat will be moved to Fatima.

Please elaborate? I sure haven't heard that one.

Pelly · « **Reply #6 on:** February 06, 2013, 01:24:17 PM »

"The Masonic plan for the destruction of the Church"
It's even on this site.

Pelly · « **Reply #7 on:** February 07, 2013, 01:44:47 AM »

Here is the alleged Third Secret.

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #8 on:** February 07, 2013, 01:48:41 AM »

Quote from: Pelly

Warlocks in the Church can prove the thesis of the Masonic infiltration, also the 33-step Masonic plan says that sacred altars should be replaced with altars suitable for human sacrifice.

This is evidenced in the docuмents that Father Luigi Villa obtained that spelled out the plan of the Freemasons' tactics to destroy the Church. You can read about many of them here:

http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/A-Chiesa-Viva-worth-reading

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #9 on:** February 07, 2013, 01:56:01 AM »

Quote from: Pelly

I think that it supports the written Third Secret recently leaked, which states is Rome continues its' abomination, it'd be destroyed and the Seat will be moved to Fatima.

http://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/g22htForensic.html

I'm convinced it's a forgery, at least some parts of it. And I'm not believing truth mixed with lies no matter what it is. So until the true Third Secret comes out, this one can be thrown in the dustbin.

Pelly · « **Reply #10 on:** February 07, 2013, 04:34:04 AM »

Then where is the true Secret?

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #11 on:** February 07, 2013, 12:47:29 PM »

Quote from: Pelly

Here is the alleged Third Secret.

That site is a hoax. The kook who runs it was predicting the same "Apocalypse" on May 13th of 2011 and 2012, and nothing happened. You need to make sure the sites you're reading are credible.

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #12 on:** February 07, 2013, 01:04:52 PM »

For increasing your knowledge on Catholicism, nothing beats a hand held book.

Of course, the guidance of a Traditional Priest is paramount too!

Crank websites are for entertainment purposes only.

Nadir · « **Reply #13 on:** February 07, 2013, 04:07:02 PM »

Quote from: Capt McQuigg

For increasing your knowledge on Catholicism, nothing beats a hand held book.

Of course, the guidance of a Traditional Priest is paramount too!

Crank websites are for entertainment purposes only.

Pelly, please take notice of Capt.

As I said before on another thread,
don't waste your precious and limited time searching out the spectacular and the intrigue.

You are new to the traditional Catholic faith. At this stage in the growth of your faith you need to concentrate on prayer and understanding the faith better. You put your faith in danger by dabbling in untrustworthy sites.

Have you access to any good traditional classics? There is some good info on The CathInfo Library. There are also many good books posted on the internet for your spiritual nourishment.

You do need spiritual nourishment rather than delving into these strange sites.

How is your prayer life? Do you pray the Rosary? Every day?

Pelly · « **Reply #14 on:** February 08, 2013, 01:57:04 AM »

But then what is the real Third Secret? It was claimed that a priest got the Secret in a locution or something. It says that the Church will bleed from all of Her wounds. Perhaps the infiltration things fulfill the prophecy.
Asides from that, I think that many Catholic prophecies have been fulfilled. Like, Our Lady of Good Success. She says that the devil would control the world with the many Masonic sects. Just look at the dollar bill. There is an Eye of Providence on it, but a Masonic type. Or if you area Hungarian, just think about the 1848 revolt. Its' motto was "Liberty, equality and fraternity". Or just look around and you'll see the liberal junk, the fascination with the esotery, occult, etc. Even the Church got infiltrated and turned into the Novus Ordo. But Trads are an important backbone for the Church for the gates of Hell will not engulf the Church.