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Offline Jacob III

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Next Pope will take either Pius XIII or Peter II as name
« on: February 26, 2013, 07:34:47 PM »
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  • Call it a hunch.
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    Offline TKGS

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    Next Pope will take either Pius XIII or Peter II as name
    « Reply #1 on: February 26, 2013, 08:06:26 PM »
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  • I think it more likely that he'll call himself John Paul 3.


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    Next Pope will take either Pius XIII or Peter II as name
    « Reply #2 on: February 26, 2013, 08:11:55 PM »
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  • Quote from: TKGS
    I think it more likely that he'll call himself John Paul 3.


    I agree. I seriously doubt another Pius.
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    Offline Christopher67

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    Next Pope will take either Pius XIII or Peter II as name
    « Reply #3 on: February 26, 2013, 08:45:23 PM »
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  • Pius viii makes sense, watch for Cletus II as well...  I'm recalling the vision of Pius X where he says he saw a future pope of the same name.

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    Next Pope will take either Pius XIII or Peter II as name
    « Reply #4 on: February 26, 2013, 08:59:46 PM »
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  • Quote from: Christopher67
    Pius viii makes sense, watch for Cletus II as well...  I'm recalling the vision of Pius X where he says he saw a future pope of the same name.


    Um...there was already a Pius VIII.  A long time ago.   :smile:

    I think Benedict XVII is very likely.  Please, Dear Lord, not John Paul III.
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    Next Pope will take either Pius XIII or Peter II as name
    « Reply #5 on: February 26, 2013, 09:34:31 PM »
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  • Lol... Indeed... In my haste to use Roman numerals instead of just saying thirteenth... Oops

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    Next Pope will take either Pius XIII or Peter II as name
    « Reply #6 on: February 26, 2013, 09:35:30 PM »
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  •  :smile:
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir

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    Next Pope will take either Pius XIII or Peter II as name
    « Reply #7 on: February 27, 2013, 12:17:23 AM »
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  • We could really use another Pius. One that governed like the other popes that took that name. However I feel that we will in fact get a JP3, Paul VII, John XXIV, or Benedict XVII. The modernist need to continue strolling down springtime road...so taking the proper name will help facilitate that.
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    Next Pope will take either Pius XIII or Peter II as name
    « Reply #8 on: March 07, 2013, 03:09:52 PM »
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  • Didn't Pope Saint Pius X state that there would be a pope named after  him -
    Pope Pius XIII?

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    Next Pope will take either Pius XIII or Peter II as name
    « Reply #9 on: March 07, 2013, 03:13:23 PM »
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  • Quote from: drivocek
    Didn't Pope Saint Pius X state that there would be a pope named after  him -
    Pope Pius XIII?

       Tantum Aude!


    Wouldn't Pius XI and XII, who have already come, qualify?

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    Next Pope will take either Pius XIII or Peter II as name
    « Reply #10 on: March 08, 2013, 07:04:16 AM »
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  • Quote from: s2srea
    Quote from: drivocek
    Didn't Pope Saint Pius X state that there would be a pope named after  him -
    Pope Pius XIII?

       Tantum Aude!


    Wouldn't Pius XI and XII, who have already come, qualify?



    His vision indicated that the successor of the same name would be killed...I found some text of it below....

    During an audience for the general chapter of the Franciscan order in 1909, the pontiff appeared to enter a trance. Those present remained motionless and silent. After a few moments, Pius opened his eyes, rose from his seat, and cried, "What I have seen is terrifying! Will I be the one, or will it be a successor? What is certain is that the Pope will leave Rome and, in leaving the Vatican, he will have to pass over the dead bodies of his priests!" He then cautioned the witnesses, "Do not tell anyone this while I am alive."
    Just before his death, Pius had another vision. "I have seen one of my successors, of the same name, who was fleeing over the bodies of his brethren. He will take refuge in some hiding place; but after a brief respite, he will die a cruel death.This perversity is nothing less than the beginning of the last days of the world."



    Interesting note to consider is that this occurred in 1909, prior to Fatima. And the part of the third secret that was released by the Vatican in 2000 is somewhat similar.


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    Next Pope will take either Pius XIII or Peter II as name
    « Reply #11 on: March 08, 2013, 07:12:36 AM »
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  • Sorry I missed a line...

    During an audience for the general chapter of the Franciscan order in 1909, the pontiff appeared to enter a trance. Those present remained motionless and silent. After a few moments, Pius opened his eyes, rose from his seat, and cried, "What I have seen is terrifying! Will I be the one, or will it be a successor? What is certain is that the Pope will leave Rome and, in leaving the Vatican, he will have to pass over the dead bodies of his priests!" He then cautioned the witnesses, "Do not tell anyone this while I am alive."
    Just before his death, Pius had another vision. "I have seen one of my successors, of the same name, who was fleeing over the bodies of his brethren. He will take refuge in some hiding place; but after a brief respite, he will die a cruel death. Respect for God has disappeared from human hearts. They wish to efface even God's memory. This perversity is nothing less than the beginning of the last days of the world."

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    Next Pope will take either Pius XIII or Peter II as name
    « Reply #12 on: May 20, 2013, 03:41:50 AM »
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  • It's interesting to see what was written before B16 abdicated and before
    Pope Francis was elected.


    Quote from: Matto
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    I think it more likely that he'll call himself John Paul 3.


    I agree. I seriously doubt another Pius.




    Quote from: s2srea
    Quote from: drivocek
    Didn't Pope Saint Pius X state that there would be a pope named after  him -
    Pope Pius XIII?



    Wouldn't Pius XI and XII, who have already come, qualify?




    Quote from: Christopher67
    Sorry I missed a line...

    During an audience for the general chapter of the Franciscan order in 1909, the pontiff appeared to enter a trance. Those present remained motionless and silent. After a few moments, Pius opened his eyes, rose from his seat, and cried, "What I have seen is terrifying! Will I be the one, or will it be a successor? What is certain is that the Pope will leave Rome and, in leaving the Vatican, he will have to pass over the dead bodies of his priests!" He then cautioned the witnesses, "Do not tell anyone this while I am alive."

    Just before his death, Pius had another vision. "I have seen one of my successors, of the same name, who was fleeing over the bodies of his brethren. He will take refuge in some hiding place; but after a brief respite, he will die a cruel death. Respect for God has disappeared from human hearts. They wish to efface even God's memory. This perversity is nothing less than the beginning of the last days of the world."



    It is presumptuous to think this refers to the name the new pope takes.

    What he said was, "one of my successors of the same name."  That could be
    Pius or it could be Sarto or it could be Giuseppe.  

    Joseph is German for Giusesppe in Italian.  

    This "successor of the same name" could be Joseph Ratzinger, a.k.a.
    Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI.  

    Sister Lucia said she saw a "bishop in white" and that it "appeared" to be
    the pope.  She did not say it was the pope, but she did not say it was not
    the pope, either, but that it appeared to be the pope.  At the time of the
    vision, there had never been a Papal abdication, and there had never been
    a living pope and a surviving predecessor also living, in the history of the
    Church.  

    This image that corresponds to the Third Secret of Fatima (for it is not the
    actual words of Our Lady that she spoke WHILE the 3 shepherd children
    saw this vision that apparently Pope St. Pius X had just seen 4 and/or 8
    years previously), foretells a bishop dressed in white (which B16 has said
    he will continue to wear), who appears to be the pope (but might be the
    Pope Emeritus, for example), climbing up a hill passing corpses of his dead
    priests
    along the way, and when he reaches a large cross apparently made
    of corkwood (which grows in Portugal), he is killed by soldiers who shoot
    bullets and arrows.

    Anyway, the next pope did not take Pius XIII or Peter II, but Francis.  We
    don't say Francis I because there hasn't been a Francis II.  Before JPII, his
    predecessor was known as "John-Paul" but that only lasted 33 days so it's
    easily forgotten.

    BTW what soldiers alive today shoot bullets AND arrows, other than
    Mohammedans? And what has been the attitude among Mohammedans
    toward B16, EVEN THOUGH he removed his shoes and dutifully stood
    there in the so-called prayer posture of the self-satisfied Mohammed?






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    Next Pope will take either Pius XIII or Peter II as name
    « Reply #13 on: May 20, 2013, 06:19:14 AM »
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  • Quote from: Neil Obstat
    It's interesting to see what was written before B16 abdicated and before
    Pope Francis was elected.


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    I think it more likely that he'll call himself John Paul 3.


    I agree. I seriously doubt another Pius.

    Anyway, the next pope did not take Pius XIII or Peter II, but Francis.  


    I would like to point out that I did not predict a "John Paul III"; I merely noted that this name was more likely than "Peter" or "Pius".


    In any event, though he did not name himself after John Paul, he seems to be a John Paul clone when it comes to doctrine, liturgy, and his penchant for being the first to do so many things.

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    Next Pope will take either Pius XIII or Peter II as name
    « Reply #14 on: May 20, 2013, 01:29:51 PM »
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  • Whatever name is taken, I have no doubt the man will be declared "venerable," "blessed," or canonized within a few years of his death.

    EDITED TO ADD: Seriously, I think it will be John Paul III.
    "This principle is most certain: The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope. The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member. Now, he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian, St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, St. Jerome, and others. Therefore, the manifest heretic cannot be Pope." -- St. Robert Bellarmine