Author Topic: New Video: Can a Freemason Be Pope? (Read 2495 times)

romantheology · « **on:** October 27, 2011, 11:34:09 AM »

Br. Andre Marie (New Hampshire) states in this video (starting at 1:56 minutes) that it is possible a Roman Pontiff and be Pope and a Freemason at the same time.

Lighthouse · « **Reply #1 on:** October 27, 2011, 01:02:54 PM »

And we should listen to Bro. Andre Marie? Why?

I must have missed the memo where Youtube has been declared part of the magisterium.

s2srea · « **Reply #2 on:** October 27, 2011, 01:23:07 PM »

Right... here's a much better video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=8KSP6NOAMwA

Stephen Francis · « **Reply #3 on:** October 27, 2011, 01:35:46 PM »

Yeah. Only, no.

Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ and participation in it have been solemnly condemned in no uncertain terms by Pope Clement XII.

Pope St. Pius X, pray for us.

Immaculate Heart of Mary, triumph soon.

Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on us.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #4 on:** October 27, 2011, 02:18:55 PM »

Indeed, Pope Clement XII refutes this Bro. Andre Marie guy.

POPE CLEMENT XII (1738) - 'In Eminenti' : "We have resolved and decreed to condemn and forbid such Societies, assemblies, reunions, conventions, aggregations or meetings called either Freemasonic or known under some other denomination. WE CONDEMN AND FORBID THEM BY THIS, OUR PRESENT CONSTITUTION, WHICH IS TO BE CONSIDERED VALID FOREVER."

romantheology · « **Reply #5 on:** October 27, 2011, 02:23:53 PM »

Thanks as I try to understand this, however, Clement does not declare those (outside) the Church who do not deny Dogma however yet belong or associate with Freemasons, or am I missing something?

In Charity, Long Live Blessed Pope John Paul II.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #6 on:** October 27, 2011, 02:26:45 PM »

John Paul II was a heretic. Did you ever see his decree that the Catholics and Protestants should get together and make a new Bible?

Back to the original topic, Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ is condemned by the Catholic Church, because Masonry is a form of satan worship. Therefore, a Freemason cannot be elected Pope.

trad123 · « **Reply #7 on:** October 27, 2011, 02:29:25 PM »

Canon 2335 Those who join a Masonic sect or other societies of the same sort, which plot against the Church or against legitimate civil authority, incur ipso facto an excommunication simply reserved to the Holy See.

roscoe · « **Reply #8 on:** October 27, 2011, 02:50:49 PM »

John Paul 2 -- anti-pope.

Stephen Francis · « **Reply #9 on:** October 27, 2011, 03:12:56 PM »

Wojtyla thought that Christ-denying, Holy-Trinity-hating Jєωs are our 'elder brothers' in some sort of wishy-washy 'faith' of his liberal imagination.

Wojtyla allowed pagan idols to be brought into Catholic churches, and his 'blessed' Agnes-Teresa of Calcutta has been photographed kneeling before idols as well. He was a heretic and a friend of heretics.

I do not know, because I am a mortal man, where he is right now, but I certainly DO know what the Church says about his kind, because both Scripture and the Magisterium are crystal-clear.

RE: the original point of this thread, Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ is Satanic and no one who participates in it may be considered part of the Church. Anyone who joins Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ knowing what the Church teaches about it is in mortal sin and in danger of Hell.

Immaculate Heart of Mary, triumph soon.

Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on us.

romantheology · « **Reply #10 on:** October 27, 2011, 03:26:08 PM »

Why have not Sedevacantists elected a Pope? They have no problem making bishops. Curious? Anyone in charity?

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #11 on:** October 27, 2011, 04:20:03 PM »

Those are conclavists. No one here believes in electing their own Pope.

No response to our refuation of this Bro Marie guy?

Stephen Francis · « **Reply #12 on:** October 27, 2011, 04:21:23 PM »

@romantheology:

YOU'RE not even asking 'in charity', so why ask FOR a charitable response?

You obviously don't know anything about how a Pope is elected, or by whom. A Pope is elected by the College of Cardinals, not by just any group that decides there needs to be a new Pope.

'Sedevacantists' don't NEED to elect a Pope; there WAS a Pope, Pius XII, until he died (eternal rest grant unto him, O Lord, and may perpetual light shine upon him). There are those who believe that the Church is in a period of interregnum.

Others believe that these last few claimants may or may not have been validly elected, but that they abdicated their authority by dint of the commission of heresy. Canon Law states that a manifest heretic cannot be Pope. It is crystal-clear that John XXIII was a Freemason, Paul VI promulgated an illegal and invalid missal (along with other heretical products of the Council), John Paul I did nothing to change or abjure the sins of his predecessors, and John Paul II and Ratzinger have done more to besmirch the Church's name than anyone in history.

Right now, there are thousands upon thousands of people worldwide who are simply praying, receiving the Sacraments and upholding Tradition, just as their forebears did, and neither turning a blind eye to facts, as you have, nor inventing new groups and cults to belong to, as the home-aloners and Dimond 'monks' have done.

Deo volente, we will have a new Pope soon, and God will restore the reputation of His Bride, whom these criminal perverts have tried to rape and kill. They will fail; Our Lady will see to that.

Immaculate Heart of Mary, triumph soon.

Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on us.

romantheology · « **Reply #13 on:** October 27, 2011, 06:24:31 PM »

Hi Stephen Francis, do you speak and write in Latin? In addition, have you take the requirements for Philosophy and Theology? Lastly, what is your Authority to teach on these matters?

Stephen Francis · « **Reply #14 on:** October 27, 2011, 06:40:20 PM »

EDIT: I'm not going to get into this; THAT would be uncharitable.