Author Topic: New Vatican Commision (Read 3476 times)

poche · « **on:** September 23, 2014, 01:27:32 AM »

Pope Francis has appointed a special commission to study a possible simplification of the process of obtaining marriage annulments.

The Vatican announced on September 22 that the Pope had asked the commission to “focus on the preparation of a proposal for the reform of the marriage annulment process, seeking to simplify and streamline the procedure, while safeguarding the principle of the indissoluble nature of marriage.”

The Vatican press office said that Pope Francis had made the decision to institute this special commission nearly a month ago. The announcement, however, came just two weeks before the opening of an extraordinary session of the Synod of Bishops. Questions about annulment and remarriage have dominated public discussions in the weeks leading up to the Synod meeting.

The special commission will be chaired by Msgr. Pio Vito Pinto, the dean of the tribunal of the Roman Rota. The bishops on the commission are Cardinal Francesco Coccopalmiero, the president of the Pontifical Council for Legislative Texts (which is the Vatican’s top body for canon-law issues); Archbishop Luis Francisco Ladario, the secretary of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (which handles doctrinal issues); and Bishop Dimitri Salachas of the Greek Byzantine Catholic Church. The remaining members of the commission are officials of Vatican canonical tribunals and experts on canon law.

The Vatican announcement indicated that the commission has been asked to begin its work as soon as possible.

http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=22675

poche · « **Reply #1 on:** September 23, 2014, 01:35:48 AM »

Burke then asked the conservative Latin-rite religious order, Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest, to perform the Tridentine Mass at what was formerly St. Mary's.

http://www.riverfronttimes.com/2004-08-25/news/bishop-takes-queen/full/

The Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest is a religous community dedicated to exclusive use of the TLM.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #2 on:** September 23, 2014, 02:41:19 AM »

It sounds to me that they are preparing for same sex marriage.

Stubborn · « **Reply #3 on:** September 23, 2014, 05:41:40 AM »

Steamline the annulment process? It's already moving along like a production line.

poche · « **Reply #4 on:** September 23, 2014, 11:22:04 PM »

Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey

It sounds to me that they are preparing for same sex marriage.

There is nothing in Canon Law which would allow for same sex marriage.

poche · « **Reply #5 on:** September 23, 2014, 11:37:07 PM »

Quote from: Stubborn

Steamline the annulment process? It's already moving along like a production line.

That may be so for the United States. There is anecdotal evidence that in some areas there is no access to the provisions in Canon Law. This may be because some procecdures are reserved exclusively to priests. It may be that with the shortage of priests combined with the lack of training that for all practical purposes people who have valid situations where there are previous marriages which are invalid are unable to get an annulment. There is also a long wait for a decree of nullity to be granted. These issues for annullments are issues of justice not feelings.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #6 on:** September 24, 2014, 04:00:35 AM »

Quote from: poche

Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey
It sounds to me that they are preparing for same sex marriage.

There is nothing in Canon Law which would allow for same sex marriage.

What does Canon law say about Church closings and even sainthood process. ??

Canon law is broken everyday.

2Vermont · « **Reply #7 on:** September 24, 2014, 06:06:51 PM »

Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey

It sounds to me that they are preparing for same sex marriage.

I honestly don't see how this leads one to think this.

poche · « **Reply #8 on:** September 25, 2014, 11:10:17 PM »

Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey

Quote from: poche
Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey
It sounds to me that they are preparing for same sex marriage.

There is nothing in Canon Law which would allow for same sex marriage.

What does Canon law say about Church closings and even sainthood process. ??

Canon law is broken everyday.

Some of the church closings have been reversed by the Vatican. It took a long time. It is this lengthy wait that the Vatican is trying to eliminate.
What ainthood processes are you referring to?

ggreg · « **Reply #9 on:** September 25, 2014, 11:40:19 PM »

Quote from: Stubborn

Steamline the annulment process? It's already moving along like a production line.

There are always improvements to be made to every process.

They will probably have paperless applications and witnesses submitting testimony by smartphone. A McKinsey consultant is probably dreaming up the process on post-it notes with his Starbucks coffee in hand right now.

Maybe it will be like those budget airlines where you get priority boarding if you pay an extra fee.

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #10 on:** September 26, 2014, 09:15:56 AM »

Quote from: poche

Burke then asked the conservative Latin-rite religious order, Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest, to perform the Tridentine Mass at what was formerly St. Mary's.

http://www.riverfronttimes.com/2004-08-25/news/bishop-takes-queen/full/

The Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest is a religous community dedicated to exclusive use of the TLM.

Let's keep it respectful, Poche. It's Cardinal Burke.

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #11 on:** September 26, 2014, 09:22:49 AM »

Quote from: poche

Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey
It sounds to me that they are preparing for same sex marriage.

There is nothing in Canon Law which would allow for same sex marriage.

Is "Same Sex" marriage specifically referenced in Canon Law? I am referring specifically to those specific two words in quotation marks.

If the Vatican decides to call in "Same Sex" and to define it as separate from ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity due to some technicality like "lenght of conjugal commitment" or "altering social mores" then they could.

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #12 on:** September 26, 2014, 09:24:33 AM »

Quote from: ggreg

Quote from: Stubborn
Steamline the annulment process? It's already moving along like a production line.

There are always improvements to be made to every process.

They will probably have paperless applications and witnesses submitting testimony by smartphone. A McKinsey consultant is probably dreaming up the process on post-it notes with his Starbucks coffee in hand right now.

Maybe it will be like those budget airlines where you get priority boarding if you pay an extra fee.

:roll-laugh2:

poche · « **Reply #13 on:** September 28, 2014, 11:00:59 PM »

Quote from: Capt McQuigg

Quote from: poche
Burke then asked the conservative Latin-rite religious order, Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest, to perform the Tridentine Mass at what was formerly St. Mary's.

http://www.riverfronttimes.com/2004-08-25/news/bishop-takes-queen/full/

The Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest is a religous community dedicated to exclusive use of the TLM.

Let's keep it respectful, Poche. It's Cardinal Burke.

This group that was attacking Cardinal Burke mentioned that he introduced a community into his archdiocese that prays the TLM exclusivly. How is that not being respectful?

poche · « **Reply #14 on:** September 28, 2014, 11:04:04 PM »

Quote from: Capt McQuigg

Quote from: poche
Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey
It sounds to me that they are preparing for same sex marriage.

There is nothing in Canon Law which would allow for same sex marriage.

Is "Same Sex" marriage specifically referenced in Canon Law? I am referring specifically to those specific two words in quotation marks.

If the Vatican decides to call in "Same Sex" and to define it as separate from ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity due to some technicality like "lenght of conjugal commitment" or "altering social mores" then they could.

there is no such thng as "same sex" marriage.