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Online Ladislaus

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Re: New St. Alphonsus Quotes on Implicit BOD
« Reply #90 on: March 19, 2021, 08:42:15 AM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on March 19, 2021, 08:40:10 AM
Ha ha.  Based on what?  You've just become the very people you hate - you interpret things like the Diamonds.

He's experiencing another emotional meltdown.  Whenever he does that, he accuses me of being a Dimondite and considering St. Thomas and St. Alphonsus to be heretics.
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Online Ladislaus

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Re: New St. Alphonsus Quotes on Implicit BOD
« Reply #91 on: March 19, 2021, 08:43:49 AM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on March 19, 2021, 08:41:38 AM
Xavier interprets things, or not, depending on his feelings and bias.  Emotional theology and sentimentality.

Right, and this is why he clings to the sappy emotionalism of a Valtorta and considers it sublime.

It was not for no reason that I referred to him for some time as XavierFem.  He goes from one private revelation to the next seeking confirmation for his own opinions.

Every time I think he's showing a bit of honesty, he melts back down into this notion of effectively rejecting the necessity of Baptism for salvation.  He pays lipservice to the dogma that the Sacrament is necessary for salvation, but then keeps articulating BoD without making any reference to Baptism whatsoever, just contrition and conversion and love, yada yada yada.
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Re: New St. Alphonsus Quotes on Implicit BOD
« Reply #92 on: March 19, 2021, 09:58:00 AM »
I am awaiting for ValtortaSem, Mr. EWTN's next thread to be on the greatness of Maria Faustina and her Divine Mercy devotion. Or did he already do it and I missed it?
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Re: New St. Alphonsus Quotes on Implicit BOD
« Reply #93 on: March 19, 2021, 10:10:58 AM »
Quote from: XavierSem on March 19, 2021, 08:54:43 AM
I articulate Baptism of Desire in precisely the way St. Thomas and St. Alphonsus did. Your problem is ultimately with them, not me.
ValtortaSem's problem is with St. Thomas and St. Alphonus Ligouri, as well as with all the dogmas on EENS, so to get around them all in one second,  he's come up with his own personal "dogma"

"Good" Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews etc. can be saved by Christ miraculously appearing  to them in their last seconds of life and scaring them into believing in Incarnation and the Holy Trinity and they will go straight to heaven."

Hay ValtortaSem, you still need to get the baptisimal character on those non-Catholics, since you are disagreeing with St. Thomas by sending them to heaven instead of Purgatory. 
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Re: New St. Alphonsus Quotes on Implicit BOD
« Reply #94 on: March 19, 2021, 11:16:58 AM »

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I articulate Baptism of Desire in precisely the way St. Thomas and St. Alphonsus did.

You absolutely do not.  You "supplement" what they say with pious stories from St Padre Pio or St John Marie, as if these latter saints were "filling in the gaps" of St Thomas/Alphonsus.  That's not how theology works.
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