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I’m coming to the conclusion that most Traditional Catholics have more or less lost the faith.  I’ve read thousands of pages from the Church Fathers, and they wouldn’t recognize most modern BoDers as anything other than Pelagian heretics.  Those Traditional Catholics who believe that there are people invisibly inside the Church not only have no business being Traditional Catholics, since that’s all Vatican II is, but are barely holding on to the faith by the skin of their teeth.  This is why Our Lord asked whether there would be any faith left when he returned.

How is this even consistent with what you said on the other thread about realizing you had made a mistake when you were starting to think, essentially, that you'd become the last Catholic?

Byzcat, St Padre Pio bilocated to hear the confession of a dying man, trapped in an avalanche.  Why was this needed if an act of contrition would suffice?
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Because not everyone has perfect contrition? 

LOL

This argument actually makes my point, not yours, because Trent is *very* clear that perfect contrition can work before a sacramental confession as long as the intent to eventually go to sacramental confession is there.  And yet God still did this miracle.

You guys are missing my logic completely.  My point isn't that God *can't* do whatever he wants to do, miraculously or otherwise.  My point is that this sort of argument *isn't* what St Justin Martyr used against the Romans who were saying Christianity was unreasonable.  He didn't say "well a saint could've bilocated and told them about the coming Messiah".  Nah, he said "those who lived reasonably were Christians."

That its *categorically impossible* that someone meeting these criteria could exist in 35 AD, but its possible in 35 BC, doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

that's the only point I'm making.  But I'm increasingly convinced neither side is that concerned with logic or truth.  Anti-BODers are just as much prejudiced by their feeling superior because they're willing to take the cold hard truths without being clouded by emotion, as the pro BODers are about continually insisting that this or that thing *absolutely proves* BOD.  Its a whole mess.

I'm saying "If X happens, then Y."  If that was true before Christ came, it should be true *after* Christ came also, given the same criteria.

you're replying back with "well OK but how do you know that ever happens" and I'm just like... I don't.  That's not the point.  Maybe it never happens.