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Offline songbird

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Re: New SSPX Analysis of Sedevacantism
« Reply #30 on: July 24, 2021, 07:39:23 PM »
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  • I do recall reading that the captain of the titanic spoke to a woman passenger over her feelings of insecurity.  The captain was noted for saying, "Even God can not sink this ship".  That should say it all.


    Offline Incredulous

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    Re: New SSPX Analysis of Sedevacantism
    « Reply #31 on: July 24, 2021, 09:07:37 PM »
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    I kind of doubt anyone would take a bribe of any amount to do this. The captain died on the Titanic. So did many of the crew. People don't take bribes to kill themselves or do something that will very likely kill them.
    The back-up plan was to have the California ship pick-up the Titanic’s passengers.  But that failed.

    In the inquest, the California’s skipper suffered the greatest penalties from the courts.

    The Titanic’s skipper had no way out. So many souls were stranded, he was forced to go down with the ship.

    You can find the story online, but the ship that sank that night was actually the Olympic, disguised as the newly launched Titanic.

    The Olympic had been damaged and had lost it’s sea-worthiness for maritime insurers, that why JP Morgan did the insurance fraud. In
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


    Offline Yeti

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    Re: New SSPX Analysis of Sedevacantism
    « Reply #32 on: July 24, 2021, 09:35:14 PM »
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  • It really seems like a stretch. I put myself in that position. If someone offered me money to ram my own ship into an iceberg and sink it into a bunch of icewater on a dark night in the middle of nowhere in the north Atlantic, on the promise that some other ship will supposedly be there to pick me up in time, do you think I would do it? Even today? Let alone in a time before GPS, radar, satellite phones, radio, 4g internet, or anything else? With no means of communication except Morse-code radio telegraphy? Are you kidding me? And leave aside the guilt of murdering a couple thousand people in the process. I don't think most sane people would do this, and anyone psychopathic enough to even consider it would likely not be put at the wheel of an oceanliner. And, as you said, the ship didn't pick them up in time anyway. If it was arranged for it to be there to pick them up, then why wasn't it?
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    Re: New SSPX Analysis of Sedevacantism
    « Reply #33 on: July 24, 2021, 09:50:19 PM »
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  • I watched this a few years ago and thought that it was interesting and well done. It's pretty damning if the evidence that they present is true, but I've never researched it enough to say.

    Patience is a conquering virtue. The learned say that, if it not desert you, It vanquishes what force can never reach; Why answer back at every angry speech? No, learn forbearance or, I'll tell you what, You will be taught it, whether you will or not.
    -Geoffrey Chaucer

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    Re: New SSPX Analysis of Sedevacantism
    « Reply #34 on: July 24, 2021, 10:27:42 PM »
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  • It really seems like a stretch. I put myself in that position. If someone offered me money to ram my own ship into an iceberg and sink it into a bunch of icewater on a dark night in the middle of nowhere in the north Atlantic, on the promise that some other ship will supposedly be there to pick me up in time, do you think I would do it? Even today? Let alone in a time before GPS, radar, satellite phones, radio, 4g internet, or anything else? With no means of communication except Morse-code radio telegraphy? Are you kidding me? And leave aside the guilt of murdering a couple thousand people in the process. I don't think most sane people would do this, and anyone psychopathic enough to even consider it would likely not be put at the wheel of an oceanliner. And, as you said, the ship didn't pick them up in time anyway. If it was arranged for it to be there to pick them up, then why wasn't it?
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    It was unclear why the California’s captain did not approach the Titanic?   

    Almost as if there was some paralysis going on with him?

    The clincher was the underwater video of the Titanic by Dr. Ballard’s submersible.  

     It showed where the Titanic’s welded nameplate on the bow had rusted off, revealing an “O” underneath.

    The “O” was part of the embossed name plate of the Olympic.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    Re: New SSPX Analysis of Sedevacantism
    « Reply #35 on: July 24, 2021, 10:30:05 PM »
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    anyone psychopathic enough to even consider it would likely not be put at the wheel of an oceanliner.
    You assume that you (or others) would be able to spot a psychopath.  They are good at hiding; hollywood and politics is full of them.
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    If someone offered me money

    Some two-bit captain wasn't making much money.  In todays terms, he would probably be offered a few million.  That's life changing.

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    Re: New SSPX Analysis of Sedevacantism
    « Reply #36 on: July 25, 2021, 05:18:08 AM »
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  • Yep, JP Morgan murdered all those people to perpetrate insurance fraud.  I wonder what all his wealth means to him now.

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    Re: New SSPX Analysis of Sedevacantism
    « Reply #37 on: July 25, 2021, 05:56:41 AM »
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  • It really seems like a stretch. I put myself in that position. If someone offered me money to ram my own ship into an iceberg and sink it into a bunch of icewater on a dark night in the middle of nowhere in the north Atlantic, on the promise that some other ship will supposedly be there to pick me up in time, do you think I would do it? Even today? Let alone in a time before GPS, radar, satellite phones, radio, 4g internet, or anything else? With no means of communication except Morse-code radio telegraphy? Are you kidding me? And leave aside the guilt of murdering a couple thousand people in the process. I don't think most sane people would do this, and anyone psychopathic enough to even consider it would likely not be put at the wheel of an oceanliner. And, as you said, the ship didn't pick them up in time anyway. If it was arranged for it to be there to pick them up, then why wasn't it?
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    I agree.
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?


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    Re: New SSPX Analysis of Sedevacantism
    « Reply #38 on: July 26, 2021, 05:02:34 PM »
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  • It really seems like a stretch. I put myself in that position. If someone offered me money to ram my own ship into an iceberg and sink it into a bunch of icewater on a dark night in the middle of nowhere in the north Atlantic, on the promise that some other ship will supposedly be there to pick me up in time, do you think I would do it? Even today? Let alone in a time before GPS, radar, satellite phones, radio, 4g internet, or anything else? With no means of communication except Morse-code radio telegraphy? Are you kidding me? And leave aside the guilt of murdering a couple thousand people in the process. I don't think most sane people would do this, and anyone psychopathic enough to even consider it would likely not be put at the wheel of an oceanliner. And, as you said, the ship didn't pick them up in time anyway. If it was arranged for it to be there to pick them up, then why wasn't it?
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    While I don't subscribe to this whole Titanic conspiracy, I can imagine a number of people who would feel not one shred of guilt over murdering all those people:  Dr. Fauci, Bill Gates, your average Democrat politicians, etc., etc., etc.

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    Re: New SSPX Analysis of Sedevacantism
    « Reply #39 on: July 26, 2021, 07:13:39 PM »
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  • Now, having watched the video above, a have to agree with Emile.  If the facts presented are indeed true, the video makes a very good case.