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Offline Meg

Re: New SSPX Analysis of Sedevacantism
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2021, 05:02:01 PM »
I watched the first 17 minutes of the video. I can't see anything wrong with what he's saying. Have any of the commenters on this thread watched the video? 

He has an interesting view (starting about 16:00) of the ordinary jurisdiction of bishops of dioceses still remaining after a pope dies, so the sedevacantist idea of the Church being in an long interregnum doesn't really work, since sedevacantists say that the bishops, since Vll, don't have any authority, even though they liken the situation to an interregnum. If that makes sense. I'm not explaining it very well.

I'll watch the rest when I have time. I'm hoping that he brings up the idea that the Catholic Church is occupied by a Modernist sect, as +ABL believed, but I'm not sure he'll go there.
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Offline DigitalLogos

Re: New SSPX Analysis of Sedevacantism
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2021, 05:13:45 PM »
Quote from: Meg on July 23, 2021, 05:02:01 PM

He has an interesting view (starting about 16:00) of the ordinary jurisdiction of bishops of dioceses still remaining after a pope dies, so the sedevacantist idea of the Church being in an long interregnum doesn't really work, since sedevacantists say that the bishops, since Vll, don't have any authority, even though they liken the situation to an interregnum. If that makes sense. I'm not explaining it very well.
Supplied jurisdiction is the answer to this problem. As those validly consecrated bishops that remain (Sede, SSPX, Resistance) would be supplied jurisdiction by the Church in the situation of there being either no diocesan bishop or an invalid one (the same can be said of priests).
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Offline TKGS

Re: New SSPX Analysis of Sedevacantism
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2021, 07:26:59 PM »
I didn't watch the video, just looked at the thumbnail.  It says, "Why sedevacantism can't be the solution to the crisis."  This alone tells me that those presenting the video don't even understand fundamentals.

Sedevacantism is not a solution, nor has it ever been claimed to be a solution.  Sedevacantism is the truthful observation and description of the crisis. 

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Offline bodeens

Re: New SSPX Analysis of Sedevacantism
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2021, 08:23:52 PM »
Quote from: TKGS on July 23, 2021, 07:26:59 PM
I didn't watch the video, just looked at the thumbnail.  It says, "Why sedevacantism can't be the solution to the crisis."  This alone tells me that those presenting the video don't even understand fundamentals.

Sedevacantism is not a solution, nor has it ever been claimed to be a solution.  Sedevacantism is the truthful observation and description of the crisis.
It's interesting to note in the comments people getting unsatisfactory answers about sv from SSPX clergy. Simply calling people "prideful" is uncharitable to these people trying to understand the apostasy of our age. Saying "I can't reconcile the situation with doctrine, this is the most likely conclusion" doesn't sound like pride but this is where the SSPX's desire for reconciliation with Rome comes into play. As an organization the conclusion is pre-loaded and is filtered through the lens of reconciliation. I'm not Resistance but I think Resistance people are actually positioned pretty well to understand this video series due to them dealing with the political arm of the SSPX.
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Offline Last Tradhican

Re: New SSPX Analysis of Sedevacantism
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2021, 08:25:07 PM »
Quote from: Matthew on July 23, 2021, 03:34:27 PM
Hmmm... stuff like this makes me stop and think.
The deceptive, compromised sellout surrender monkeys who don't believe in the Traditional Movement, the Crisis in the Church or the Freemasons -- they hate sedevacantism!
Yes, they also hate the devil. Or at least they claim to. But still...
I said it yesterday, the SSPX hierarchy has become deck chair arrangers on the Titanic. Sedevacantes? Sedevacantes are just the deck chairs. THE SHIP IS SINKING!!!!!!
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