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2Vermont · « **Reply #15 on:** August 31, 2014, 06:48:15 AM »

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[T]he real purpose of posting this is because I wanted everyone to look into their souls a little bit and see where idle gossip and rash judgement was playing a part in the life of their church. Is it possible that there is someone who you thought you knew (as a bad person) that you later on found out was really not the bad person you thought they were?

So kind of a rehash of Ekim's recent "'Trads' are a bunch of unfriendly @$$holes" thread, huh... And to answer your question--no. Anytime that I've let my guard down and associated with someone whom I knew better than to do, I have generally been burned or defiled.

TKGS is giving you too much benefit of the doubt. It seems to me that you are quite pleased with conciliardom, and that what matters is everybody getting along and getting in a circle and singing kumbayah. I don't know how old you are. But you strike me as one of the passive-aggressive liberal hippies who would have been giddy over the implementation of V-II. You strike me as one of the worst kind of conciliarists.

What do you get out of interacting on CI? What do you think you impart unto the forum? Are you trying to convert us or convince us that the Frank the Fraud Circus is the grandest slice of Catholicism one could hope for?

The last thing i would say is that 'Trads' are a bunch of unfriendly @$$holes" The problem of idle gossip and rash judgement applies to everyone. St. Theresa of Avila warned about the danger of gossip, rash judgement and factions in religous communities in her book "The Way of Perfection."

This should not have been posted in the Crisis in the Church forum then. This forum is specifically for the crisis in the Church post Vatican II. If we're just talking about not gossiping then you could have found another forum for this.

But I think you know that. And that is why I will question your desire to put it here.

poche · « **Reply #16 on:** September 03, 2014, 11:03:43 PM »

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TKGS is giving you too much benefit of the doubt.

Based on the responses, you may be right.

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Actually the reason I posted this in the Crisis section is that Pope Francis gave the talk.

And if the Dali Lama had given the talk, would you have posted it in the "Catholic Living in the Modern World" forum?

I don't really pay much attention to what the Dalai Lama has to say.

poche · « **Reply #17 on:** September 03, 2014, 11:06:45 PM »

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[T]he real purpose of posting this is because I wanted everyone to look into their souls a little bit and see where idle gossip and rash judgement was playing a part in the life of their church. Is it possible that there is someone who you thought you knew (as a bad person) that you later on found out was really not the bad person you thought they were?

So kind of a rehash of Ekim's recent "'Trads' are a bunch of unfriendly @$$holes" thread, huh... And to answer your question--no. Anytime that I've let my guard down and associated with someone whom I knew better than to do, I have generally been burned or defiled.

TKGS is giving you too much benefit of the doubt. It seems to me that you are quite pleased with conciliardom, and that what matters is everybody getting along and getting in a circle and singing kumbayah. I don't know how old you are. But you strike me as one of the passive-aggressive liberal hippies who would have been giddy over the implementation of V-II. You strike me as one of the worst kind of conciliarists.

What do you get out of interacting on CI? What do you think you impart unto the forum? Are you trying to convert us or convince us that the Frank the Fraud Circus is the grandest slice of Catholicism one could hope for?

The last thing i would say is that 'Trads' are a bunch of unfriendly @$$holes" The problem of idle gossip and rash judgement applies to everyone. St. Theresa of Avila warned about the danger of gossip, rash judgement and factions in religous communities in her book "The Way of Perfection."

This should not have been posted in the Crisis in the Church forum then. This forum is specifically for the crisis in the Church post Vatican II. If we're just talking about not gossiping then you could have found another forum for this.

But I think you know that. And that is why I will question your desire to put it here.

I put it here because Matthew said that when we talk about the pope this is where we should post items. If it was in any other context or if it was said by anybody else, Archbishop Lefebvre for example, I would have put it there. Besides, gossip in the form of calumny, detraction, and rash judgement all work to bring about a kind of a crisis on their own.

OHCA · « **Reply #18 on:** September 03, 2014, 11:07:55 PM »

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TKGS is giving you too much benefit of the doubt.

Based on the responses, you may be right.

Quote from: poche
Actually the reason I posted this in the Crisis section is that Pope Francis gave the talk.

And if the Dali Lama had given the talk, would you have posted it in the "Catholic Living in the Modern World" forum?

I don't really pay much attention to what the Dalai Lama has to say.

You mustn't say so publicly--you'll ruin Frank the Fraud's @$$-Kissing the Religions of the World Tour.

poche · « **Reply #19 on:** September 04, 2014, 01:25:54 AM »

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TKGS is giving you too much benefit of the doubt.

Based on the responses, you may be right.

Quote from: poche
Actually the reason I posted this in the Crisis section is that Pope Francis gave the talk.

And if the Dali Lama had given the talk, would you have posted it in the "Catholic Living in the Modern World" forum?

I don't really pay much attention to what the Dalai Lama has to say.

You mustn't say so publicly--you'll ruin Frank the Fraud's @$$-Kissing the Religions of the World Tour.

Maybe you won't say so

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #20 on:** September 08, 2014, 04:57:09 PM »

Poche is right - we should all refrain from gossip in our parishes.

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #21 on:** September 08, 2014, 07:09:49 PM »

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Poche is right - we should all refrain from gossip in our parishes.

That what's makes the world tick, lots, and lots of gossip, that some
might be actually true, but better not said.

OHCA · « **Reply #22 on:** September 08, 2014, 09:25:20 PM »

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Poche is right - we should all refrain from gossip in our parishes.

If there's any gossip at my chapel, it must be about me, because I'm not hearing any of it. :smoke-pot:

poche · « **Reply #23 on:** September 08, 2014, 10:54:41 PM »

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Poche is right - we should all refrain from gossip in our parishes.

That what's makes the world tick, lots, and lots of gossip, that some
might be actually true, but better not said.

If you say something bad and it is not true it is the sin of calumny.
If you say something bad that is true but not necessary it is the sin of detraction.
If you are always ready to judge evil of someone, especially someone you secretly like to hate, without the whole story (and who really knows the whole story?) it is the sin of rash judgement.
All of these are sins against truth and against charity. So if you hear sonmething evil or you think you know something evil that you can't wait to say, just remember; Silence is still golden.

poche · « **Reply #24 on:** September 09, 2014, 12:18:38 AM »

Pope Francis spoke about fraternal correction as reflected on the Sunday Gospel (Mt. 18:15-20) during his September 7 Angelus address.

“Jesus teaches us that if my brother sins against me, I have to use charity towards him and, first of all, talk to him personally, explaining that what he has said or done is not good,” he said. “The stages of this route show the effort the Lord asks of his community to accompany those who make mistakes, so they are not lost. It is first necessary to avoid the clamor of news and the gossip of the community.”

The Pope called for “an attitude of gentleness, prudence, humility, and attention against those who have committed a crime, avoiding that words can hurt and kill the brother … At the same time this discretion has the purpose of not unnecessarily mortifying the sinner.”

Stating that angry, resentful insults are “not Christian,” he added:

In fact, before God we are all sinners in need of forgiveness. Everyone! In fact, Jesus told us not to judge. Fraternal correction is a matter of love and communion that must prevail in the Christian community, it is a reciprocal service that we can and must render for one another. And it is possible and effective only if everyone is a sinner and in need of forgiveness of the Lord. The same conscience that makes me recognize the mistake of the other, beforehand reminds me that I have erred and wronged so many times.

http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=22518