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Traditional Catholic Faith => Crisis in the Church => Topic started by: Merry on December 09, 2017, 10:57:07 AM
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It seems to be on Amazon and Ebay. But not on the Fr. Wathen website?
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Do you have a link to it on Amazon?
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Has the book a title and an author? That would be helpful!
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Can't find the link to it either in Amazon or Ebay.
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With all of the Nativity scenes starting to be put out this season I often find myself thinking of something Fr. Wathen wrote in TGS:
As Mary and Joseph sought to protect their innocent Son from Herod, so we are all bound to protect and honor the Most Blessed Sacrament. We are not free merely not to profane it ourselves, but duty-bound to "throw our own bodies over it," as it were, to protect it from the least irreverence, to risk whatever consequences in the effort, and consider ourselves extremely blessed if we are called upon to do such a thing. There is simply nothing as holy and wonderful as the Mass.
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It would be a worthy prayer intention to beseech God to inspire someone who possesses the necessary talents with a desire to write biographies of Fr. Wathen and Fr. Feeney.
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Has the book a title and an author? That would be helpful!
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Sorry for this delay - have looked into it further. The book will eventually be available on EBAY (not Amazon), and also on the Fr. Wathen website once the payment mechanism there is fixed.
The book is called Thou Art a Priest Forever, the Life of Father James F. Wathen - Faithful Priest and Patriot, Preserver and Defender of the True Mass. It is by John H. Wathen, an older brother who spent some time in the same seminary as Fr. Wathen, and who has been a traditionalist for a few years now.
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Here is the link to the ebay page:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Thou-Art-a-Priest-Forever-the-Life-of-Father-James-F-Wathen/173028216495?hash=item2849490eaf:g:6NwAAOSwDFBaLy07
"Thou Art a Priest Forever - the Life of Father James F Wathen"
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Whoa, Pax Vobis - super service! :cheers: :applause: :-\
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Here is the link to the ebay page:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Thou-Art-a-Priest-Forever-the-Life-of-Father-James-F-Wathen/173028216495?hash=item2849490eaf:g:6NwAAOSwDFBaLy07
Thou Art a Priest Forever - The Life of Father James F. Wathen
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Interesting -- apparently the eBay listing is just a few minutes old -- 11 views per hour so far, probably going to increase.
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Looks like a great Christmas present!
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For sale: A newly printed book, "Thou Art a Priest Forever - The life of Fr James Fr Wathen."
Book Details:
In 1971, amidst the chaos and confusion wrought by the Second Vatican Council and the advent of the New Mass, faithful Catholics craved clarity and direction. The voice of Fr Wathen resonated with early clarity for all catholics to reject the changes wrought by the revolutionary Vatican II council.
This book is a multi-faceted tribute to the late Fr Wathen (born 1932, ordained 1958, died 2006), compiled by his brother, John. It covers Father's road to the priesthood and his diocesan experience during the revolutionary 60s. It also contains a montage of memories from Fr's siblings, his grateful flock and friends. There are also a few excerpts from Fr Wathen's many writings.
Father Wathen's wit, wisdom and dedication to the cause of Catholicism shine forth in a way that will be appreciated by both those who never met him, and those who miss him dearly.
Softcover. 325 pages
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Fr James Fr Wathen (?)
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Awesome. God bless John Wathen. What a wonderful man.
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Just noticed this in other available books:
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Who Shall Ascend? Volume II: Intra Ecclesiam Conciliariam Nulla Salus (Inside the Vatican 2 Church there is No Salvation).
Fr James F Wathen's comprehensive analysis of what has happened to the Church in the past century, and why Catholics who are serious about their faith need to reject the errors, both implicit and explicit, of the post Vatican II church.
Also present is a sound rebuttal of the aberrant social structures which plague the world today, particularly in the fields of economics and social order, which problems have their root in the Freemasonic philosophies of the French Revolution and are still flourishing today.
--This book is in softcover form. Hardback is also available. See all my items for sale, for the full list of Fr's books. I am selling these books on behalf of Fr Wathen's website. If you would like to order a large quantity, please contact me for potential discounts..--
Fr Wathen died in 2006. Please pray for the repose of his soul and for all the Faithful Departed in Purgatory... Eternal Rest grant unto them, O Lord, and let perpetual light shine upon them. May they rest in peace. Amen.
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[How often do you see that on eBay?]
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Intra Ecclesiam Conciliariam Nulla Salus -- that takes a lot of nerve to say.
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Interesting -- apparently the eBay listing is just a few minutes old
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Pax Vobis posted this message just 13 minutes 30 seconds after the eBay first revision was made and only 10 minutes 28 seconds after the second revision was made.
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More than half way through it and I can say that it is most definitely well worth the few dollars.
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Hi, I am hoping (with faint hope) that Fr. Wathen can resurrect my belief that the Conciliar popes are valid popes. I have acquired a copy of Who Shall Ascend and am studying it. Father Wathen is correct about most things, and I am hoping that his rejection of sedevacantism can convince me that Francis is a true pope. It is looking very much like the sedevacantist movement is stalling badly, and that within a short time, there will be no sedevacantist left except me.
My belief is that Archbishop Lefebvre refused to accept sedevacantism because of his desire for human respect, and that Fr. Wathen rejected sedevacantism because he was deeply invested in the institutional Church and that he felt an overwhelming terror when he considered the possibility that the Church could be without a pope, especially for 30 some years with no hope of a true pope developing. He had hope, in 1992, that the Conciliar Church could right itself. That was then, it now seems clear that the Conciliarists will not return to the pre-Conciliar Catholic religion. If Fr. can somehow convince me that by some mysterious process the so-called "Novus Ordo" Church is the Catholic Church, I will be very happy. As a forlorn sedevacantist, I am very dissatisfied. I hope I am not the ONLY real Catholic in the world.
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Archbishop Lefebvre didn't accept sedeism because he was prudent, not because he cared so much about human respect.
Sedevacantism is essentially an American belief system; based, IMO, on religious freedom. Archbishop Lefebvre was not American. Not by a longshot.
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Meg: Archbishop Lefebvre was not American, though he was, I understand, very fond of Americans in general. His biography, the one by Bishop de Mallerais, reveals that the Archbishop was looking seriously at sedevacantism. He said, "It is possible that we might have to say that the pope is not the pope." He didn't go that way, but it is not ridiculous :laugh1:, as all the pagan seculars (I assume and hope you do not fall into that dreadful category) crow. You infer that the Europeans do not favor sedevacantism. That may be, but the Conciliar Revolution was like a great tidal wave, sweeping all opposition (including the good Archbishop) before it. Very, very few Catholics have had the nerve to say, "NO", to Vatican II. It took me almost 30 years to begin questioning the validity of the Council. Father Malachi Martin helped stir me into awareness. I know that he was pretty sketchy and that you had to take what he said or wrote with a grain of salt, but I loved him and he was brave and knowledgeable man.
Now, I place Father Wathen, God rest his soul, in the same vein as Archbishop Lefebvre. Both were good pre-Vatican II Catholics who loved the Faith. Both refused to embrace sedevacantism. Their error was, I believe and hope, forgiven by Jesus when they went before the Throne. RCG:farmer:.
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My belief is that Archbishop Lefebvre refused to accept sedevacantism because of his desire for human respect, and that Fr. Wathen rejected sedevacantism because he was deeply invested in the institutional Church and that he felt an overwhelming terror when he considered the possibility that the Church could be without a pope, especially for 30 some years with no hope of a true pope developing.
This is just silly. The fact is, Fr. Wathen actually spoke very little about sedeism because he felt most sane individuals would see it for what it was - schismatic - he felt that way because that is what the Church has always taught. He also encouraged people to avoid even discussing it because the unknowing and those weaker in the faith are too easily sucked into it.
Most of Fr.'s writings and sermons are about everything Catholic except sedeism. If you read Who Shall Ascend, you will find he mentions sedeism only a few times and devotes just one chapter to it - he explains the situation so clearly in such a short space that really, there was no need to explain it further at the time.
As for +ABL, whatever he is quoted to have said had absolutely nothing to do with human respect weakness, remember, he dealt face to face with the popes, so if anyone would have had the opportunity to decide or know if sedeism is true or in some way acceptable, it was +ABL, and don't forget that he was the only General on the front lines dealing with slanderous superiors and press till he died. If anyone did not really care about what others thought, it was +ABL.