The end of discussion occurred when both Siscoe and Salza quit this thread several days ago.
Did anyone but me notice WHEN they quit? It was when Catholictrue asked him/them:
By the way, does your book have the approval of your local 'ordinary', from whom you claim one may not separate without a Church judgment? If not, why not? And if you say people cannot separate from the ‘hierarchy’ under Francis until an official judgment is made, why are you promoting and receiving endorsements from numerous priests who have separated from their ‘bishops’ and ‘ordinaries’ without a judgment? Can you not see the inconsistency (and outright hypocrisy) of such a position? In one breath you say that it’s absolutely forbidden to separate from one’s 'bishop' without a judgment, and then in the next you say: read it in a book endorsed by the head of a group (Bernard Fellay) who has been separated from his ‘bishops’ for decades, and by priests who are totally independent from their ‘bishops’, so much so that they teach one must not attend diocesan ‘services’!
And the nails in the coffin were when Clemens Maria pointed out that:
Bravo! Don't expect a response on that one.
And when Gregory I also brought up the same point:
Does your book have the Nihil Obstat of your local bishop Mr. Salza? Mr. Siscoe? An imprimatur?
Not only had they no reply to that; that shut them both up completely!
That is the Achilles' heel of proving Sedevacantism wrong from a SSPX R&R standpoint. It can be done and easily so from many other different angles, though.
It literally cannot be shown to be wrong from any standpoint, because the theological conclusions it arrives at are certain and binding:
1. The Church cannot defect.
2. Vatican II defected.
3. The teaching of Vatican II doesn't come from the Church.
1. Vatican II is a defection from prior magisterial teaching.
2. But the ordinary universal magisterial authority cannot promulgate false magisterial teaching.
3. Therefore Vatican II was not promulgated by magisterial authority.
1. Pope Paul VI promulgated Vatican II in the name of the Church.
2. But the Pope cannot promulgate heresy in the name of the whole church.
3. Therefore Paul VI has no Papal authority.
Game over.