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NEW 3/2/09 Bishop Fellay interview about +W
« on: March 02, 2009, 09:42:23 AM »
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  • URL: http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,610700,00.html

    Williamson Apology 'A Step in Right Direction'

    Bishop Bernard Fellay, head of the Society of Saint Pius X, has told
    SPIEGEL that his organization has "clearly distanced itself" from
    Bishop Richard Williamson. Nevertheless, he says the bishop's apology
    for his h0Ɩ0cαųst denial is a step in the right direction.

    SPIEGEL: Bishop, weeks ago you gave your colleague Richard Williamson
    a book so that he can read up on the h0Ɩ0cαųst. Last week he published
    an apology which falls short of the Vatican's demand that he retract
    his h0Ɩ0cαųst denial. Does Williamson's statement suffice in your opinion?

    Fellay: It is definitely a first plea for forgiveness, and therefore
    an important step in the right direction. One can always hope for
    better phrasing. At least the plea for forgiveness is honest, and the
    withdrawal of his words is genuine.

    SPIEGEL: That hope seems unfounded. After his arrival in London,
    Williamson surrounded himself with people who have openly denied the
    h0Ɩ0cαųst, such as the historian David Irving. Do you know why?

    Fellay: I have the impression that Bishop Williamson is being used by
    these people. Information was deliberately fed to the media here.
    We're working against that as well as we can. I am totally against
    these connections.

    SPIEGEL: But your influence on Williamson seems to be weak.

    Fellay: We are in contact, he is in a priory of the Society in London
    for the time being. But he is also a free human being. Sure, he has a
    superior, but he is free in his decisions. But he has to bear the
    consequences for that.

    SPIEGEL: Will he return to his full duties?

    Fellay: That is impossible under the current circuмstances. He has
    damaged us and hurt our reputation. We have very clearly distanced
    ourselves. He was not ordained as a bishop for his own personal
    purpose but for the common good of the church, to spread the revealed
    truth.

    SPIEGEL: So why don't you exclude Williamson from the Society?

    Fellay: That will happen if he denies the h0Ɩ0cαųst again. It is
    probably better for everyone if he stays quiet and stays in a corner
    somewhere. I want him to disappear from the public eye for a good while.

    SPIEGEL: The Vatican could reinstate the excommunication because he
    has not made a retraction.

    Fellay: I doubt that. Denial of the h0Ɩ0cαųst, as serious as it is,
    isn't part of canonical law -- so an excommunication isn't possible.
    It isn't just we who say that, it is canons, legal experts. The
    problem is that his comments have been linked to his office.

    SPIEGEL: The Regensburg bishop Gerhard Ludwig Müller has denied the
    German Pius seminar in Zaitzkofen permission to ordain more priests.
    Will you adhere to the ban?

    Fellay: That was unnecessary and inappropriate. All these events
    definitely are a setback for us. It throws us back by 10 years. But
    ordinations will continue to happen.

    SPIEGEL: In Germany politicians fear that schools run by the Society
    don't share the values of the German constitution. Are you concerned
    that there will be inspections?

    Fellay: I'm not worried about that at all. We are normal people. We
    observe the rules, and that includes the state order. Even if one
    voice said something wrong. It is expressly written in the epistles of
    the holy Paul that we honor authority and pray for it.

    SPIEGEL: So Williamson is someone who has gone astray and criticism of
    the Society is a big misunderstanding?

    Fellay: Now we're the world's scapegoat, and every wrong step
    immediately turns into a scandal. But mistakes that need to be
    corrected are made all the time and everywhere.

    SPIEGEL: Why did you respond so late to Williamson's crude theses?

    Fellay: I confess that I didn't take the situation seriously enough.
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    NEW 3/2/09 Bishop Fellay interview about +W
    « Reply #1 on: March 02, 2009, 09:56:51 AM »
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  • His groveling is quite pathetic. He is behaving like Judas.


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    NEW 3/2/09 Bishop Fellay interview about +W
    « Reply #2 on: March 02, 2009, 02:12:33 PM »
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  • It is increasingly disappointing to see the things Bp. Fellay has to say about this matter.

    I've read several times that he referred to the Jєωs in the same manner as the pope has done... "elder brothers..." or some such thing. Can someone post when and where he said that as I've not seen the source of that quote?
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    « Reply #3 on: March 02, 2009, 03:03:32 PM »
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  • Here is a good commentary on that interview:

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    « Reply #4 on: March 02, 2009, 03:31:35 PM »
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  • Below is an interview with +F. He is clearly not changing
    course with regard to +W. In fact, he is picking up speed.
    ML
    URL: http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,610700,00.html
    Williamson Apology 'A Step in Right Direction'
    Bishop Bernard Fellay, head of the Society of Saint Pius X, has told
    SPIEGEL that his organization has "clearly distanced itself" from
    Bishop Richard Williamson. Nevertheless, he says the bishop's apology
    for his h0Ɩ0cαųst denial [Still using the Enemy's false and slanderous epitaph] is a step
    in the right direction.
    SPIEGEL: Bishop, weeks ago you gave your colleague Richard Williamson
    a book so that he can read up on the h0Ɩ0cαųst. Last week he published
    an apology which falls short of the Vatican's demand that he retract
    his h0Ɩ0cαųst denial. Does Williamson's statement suffice in your opinion?
    Fellay: It is definitely a first plea for forgiveness [not!], and therefore
    an important step in the right direction [and what direction might that be? grovelling of
    racceptence form the raving тαℓмυdists?] . One can always hope for
    better phrasing. At least the plea for forgiveness is honest, and the
    withdrawal of his words is genuine [unless I;ve missed something, +W has withdrawn no
    words, not a jot].
    SPIEGEL: That hope seems unfounded. After his arrival in London,
    Williamson surrounded himself with people who have openly denied the
    h0Ɩ0cαųst [no! they openly doubt the story as canonized by the world via the
    тαℓмυdists. Again, a blatant misrepresentation. typical and vile.], such as the historian
    David Irving. Do you know why?
    Fellay: I have the impression that Bishop Williamson is being used by
    these people [say what? you mean you're making this up with nothing to back it up.
    Alas, up to this point +F has not 'denied' one misrepresentation or calumny this NWO
    reporter has blathered out. I am frankly shocked.]. Information was deliberately fed to
    the media here. [Hello! your Excellency, what in the name of heaven duse that suggest
    to you...hmmm.a conspiracy perhaps...by whom? hmmmm, oh no, not the Judaics, no
    some unnamed fuzzy someone perhaps...]
    We're working against that as well as we can. I am totally against
    these connections.
    SPIEGEL: But your influence on Williamson seems to be weak [what? to make him lie,
    and grovel, renounce truth and reason?].
    Fellay: We are in contact, he is in a priory of the Society in London
    for the time being. But he is also a free human being. Sure, he has a
    superior, but he is free in his decisions. But he has to bear the
    consequences for that [yes your excellency, we all have to bear the consequences of
    our actions and words. Something you might well dwell on].
    SPIEGEL: Will he return to his full duties?
    Fellay: That is impossible under the current circuмstances. He has
    damaged us and hurt our reputation [no, no, say in is not so. The world thinks less of
    the SSPX? Wake up and smell the coffee! They world despised you then and
    despises you now. The Judaics will always hate you with a red hot glowing hate. If
    you become their abject slaves they will then simply hate AND despise you.]. We have
    very clearly distanced
    ourselves. He was not ordained as a bishop for his own personal
    purpose but for the common good of the church, to spread the revealed
    truth [No and no and NO! The revealed truth is revealed to the world, which is in a
    cesspool of error, lies, peversion, et al ad nauseum. So we should never comment on
    or challenge the ways of the world? Bosh!].
    SPIEGEL: So why don't you exclude Williamson from the Society?
    Fellay: That will happen if he denies the h0Ɩ0cαųst again [How dense can you get? he DID
    NOT DENY THE SO=CALLED h0Ɩ0cαųst! Where has reason gone? Where has
    accuracy and truth gone? See appended transcript. There is no 'denial' there is a
    questioning of the numbers and the method. Valid questions.] . It is
    probably better for everyone if he stays quiet and stays in a corner
    somewhere [bad dog! bad dog! offending poor NWO elides and Christ-hating
    тαℓмυdists! Bad dog!]. I want him to disappear from the public eye for a good while
    [dream on MacDuff! This will not be allowed to happen until he is dead, cowed, or
    imprisioned].
    SPIEGEL: The Vatican could reinstate the excommunication because he
    has not made a retraction [what? this mouthpeice of Sauron is threatening the Bishop?
    Is that part of his objective reporter's portfolio?].
    Fellay: I doubt that. Denial of the h0Ɩ0cαųst, as serious as it is,
    isn't part of canonical law -- so an excommunication isn't possible.
    It isn't just we who say that, it is canons, legal experts. The
    problem is that his comments have been linked to his office [Yes, this is true. +W should
    have thought as a fox and a bishop, not as a college professor].
    SPIEGEL: The Regensburg bishop Gerhard Ludwig Müller has denied the
    German Pius seminar in Zaitzkofen permission to ordain more priests [gosh, let's not
    offend Bishop Mueller. The German Bishops have been so helpful to tradition and
    SSPX in the past.]
    Will you adhere to the ban?
    Fellay: That was unnecessary and inappropriate. All these events
    definitely are a setback for us. It throws us back by 10 years [this is just too much.
    EVERYONE KNEW +W'S VIEWS LONG BEFORE THIS EVENT! The SSPX websites
    and literature were/are full of ruth about the Jєωs, VII, etc. If you were thrown back
    ten years Your Excellency, it was because you underestimated the enemy. What, you
    thought they would just sit back and concede defeat? The name Chruch Militant is
    NOT just a cool epitaph. Warfare with Satan is perilous and can be deadly] . But
    ordinations will continue to happen.
    SPIEGEL: In Germany politicians fear that schools run by the Society
    don't share the values of the German constitution [excuse my French, but no shit
    sherlock! The German constitution apparently values thought crimes, totalitarian
    repression of individual rights, abortion on demand, and all the other evils of
    revolutionary societies and socialist NWO devotees]. Are you concerned
    that there will be inspections?
    Fellay: I'm not worried about that at all [really? you ought to be. You ought to be
    concerned with the nαzι=like tactics of the state]. We are normal people. We
    observe the rules, and that includes the state order. Even if one
    voice said something wrong. It is expressly written in the epistles of
    the holy Paul that we honor authority and pray for it [sorry, this will not keep the
    persecutions from happening.].
    SPIEGEL: So Williamson is someone who has gone astray and criticism of
    the Society is a big misunderstanding?
    Fellay: Now we're the world's scapegoat, and every wrong step
    immediately turns into a scandal. But mistakes that need to be
    corrected are made all the time and everywhere.
    SPIEGEL: Why did you respond so late to Williamson's crude theses ]oh, that's an
    objective neutral question. Who is the crude one here, you NWO toadie?]?
    Fellay: I confess that I didn't take the situation seriously enough [negative! your didn't take
    the Enemy seriously enough!].
    Interview conducted by Stefan Winter.


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    « Reply #5 on: March 02, 2009, 03:32:07 PM »
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  • Chant,

    I cut and pasted the article from your pdf file.

    Very good commentary.

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    « Reply #6 on: March 03, 2009, 09:29:14 AM »
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  • This makes me MAD!   :really-mad2: :really-mad2: :really-mad2: :really-mad2: :really-mad2:

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    « Reply #7 on: March 03, 2009, 09:35:58 AM »
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  • Quote
    SPIEGEL: So why don't you exclude Williamson from the Society?

    FELLAY: That will happen if he denies the h0Ɩ0cαųst again. It is
    probably better for everyone if he stays quiet and stays in a corner
    somewhere. I want him to disappear from the public eye for a good while.


    This is a keeper.  It is like he was a bad boy in the kindergarten I attended.  When I was bad, which was often (a shock, I know), I had to sit on a square of carpet in the corner.  I also had my mouth washed out with soap a lot in later years, but that is another story!  Hey, come to think of it, maybe they could wash his mouth out using soap that was supposedly made from Judaics, under a lamp with a shade that is supposedly from the skin of a Judaic?  LOL!!!
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."


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    « Reply #8 on: March 03, 2009, 09:41:40 AM »
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    SPIEGEL: The Regensburg bishop Gerhard Ludwig Müller has denied the German Pius seminary in Zaitzkofen permission to ordain more priests.  Will you adhere to the ban?

    FELLAY: That was unnecessary and inappropriate. All these events definitely are a setback for us. It throws us back by 10 years. But ordinations will continue to happen.


    I love this one, too.  He is saying, "We have been blowing off the Pope and local Ordinaries for decades.  Do you think we will give a sh*t what they tell us to do now?  Lifted excommunications mean nothing in our (mental) practical order."

    How is it "unnecessary and inappropriate" for the local authority to exercise his authority?  Is it not more a case of continuance of the habitual lip service on the part of the SSPX?
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."

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    « Reply #9 on: March 03, 2009, 09:43:19 AM »
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  • Quote from: sedetrad
    He is behaving like Judas.


    If it walks like a duck...
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."