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Offline Jr1991

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Neo SSPX SPARKS cινιℓ ωαr OVER VACCINE PASSPORTS
« on: September 27, 2021, 03:18:18 PM »
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    Re: Neo SSPX SPARKS cινιℓ ωαr OVER VACCINE PASSPORTS
    « Reply #1 on: September 27, 2021, 03:28:11 PM »
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    • What a world, where Church militant is in the right and the SSPX is defending the mark of the beast! (or the precursor)
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    Re: Neo SSPX SPARKS cινιℓ ωαr OVER VACCINE PASSPORTS
    « Reply #2 on: September 27, 2021, 03:41:51 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matto on September 27, 2021, 03:28:11 PM
    What a world, where Church militant is in the right and the SSPX is defending the mark of the beast! (or the precursor)

    Well, it's to be expected given the FALLEN state of the SSPX. Beliefs and principles inform our actions. A man who believes the World is to be despised is going to make different choices, and perform different actions, than a man who wants the World to like him.

    Principles matter. Today, it's an abstract belief. Tomorrow, that belief leads one to perform a concrete action. That is why having the objective Truth matters.

    If you're operating on bad intel, bad information, you're bound to make all kinds of wrong moves and mistakes.
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    Re: Neo SSPX SPARKS cινιℓ ωαr OVER VACCINE PASSPORTS
    « Reply #3 on: September 27, 2021, 03:43:04 PM »
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    • The SSPX just showed their true colors.

    They've artfully hidden their "sellout" since 2011.

    A lot of internal discussion must have gone into preparing this vax announcement. 

    Now we officially know they are on the side of the Destroyer Pope, Francis.



    The SSPX corporate hierarchy should be pressured to take the jab from a pharmacy with an independent audit of the vaccination vial serial numbers.
    (Making sure they didn't get placebos).  That's how much credibility the SSPX has now.
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    Re: Neo SSPX SPARKS cινιℓ ωαr OVER VACCINE PASSPORTS
    « Reply #4 on: September 27, 2021, 04:04:20 PM »
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    • Despicable and cowardly. Well, I won't be giving a cent to this corrupt institution. I guess my monetary offering is going to be limited to keeping my local chapel running and the alms box.

    "Howl, ye shepherds, and cry: and sprinkle yourselves with ashes, ye leaders of the flock: for the days of your slaughter and your dispersion are accomplished, and you shall fall like precious vessels." - Jeremias, 25:34.
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    Re: Neo SSPX SPARKS cινιℓ ωαr OVER VACCINE PASSPORTS
    « Reply #5 on: September 27, 2021, 04:30:55 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matto on September 27, 2021, 03:28:11 PM
    What a world, where Church militant is in the right and the SSPX is defending the mark of the beast! (or the precursor)

    ...or where CM gives publicity to +BW and the Resistance.
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    Re: Neo SSPX SPARKS cινιℓ ωαr OVER VACCINE PASSPORTS
    « Reply #6 on: September 27, 2021, 04:57:03 PM »
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    • At least we can strike the SSPX off the short list of those we can trust in moral matters.  Individual priests may disagree, but let the layman beware.  
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    « Reply #7 on: September 27, 2021, 07:51:14 PM »
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    • From some of the friends that I know who are going to the Neo SSPX chapels, when they ask a priest, they will say something along the line of because of what Bergolio had said, it comes down to personal conscience; in other words, it’s ok to get it if you’re going to lose your job.
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    Re: Neo SSPX SPARKS cινιℓ ωαr OVER VACCINE PASSPORTS
    « Reply #8 on: September 27, 2021, 08:08:38 PM »
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    • Quote from: Jr1991 on September 27, 2021, 07:51:14 PM
    From some of the friends that I know who are going to the Neo SSPX chapels, when they ask a priest, they will say something along the line of because of what Bergolio had said, it comes down to personal conscience; in other words, it’s ok to get it if you’re going to lose your job.

    Yes, these are representative of the last couple generations of SSPX priests.  Many of these are now cradle trads and have no first-hand understanding regarding the enormity of the crisis, and have slipped back into a 1950s pre-Vatican-II mindset, which is ripe for sliding right back into Vatican II.  Well done, Bishop Fellay.  This happened under your watch and reflects what you've been teaching in your seminaries.

    I've gone to Mass and to confession from time to time to a couple of these younger priests, and I must say that I don't like them one bit ... even in terms of their spirituality.  I recall one time standing in a Confession line 30 minutes, an by then it had become a very long line, before the priest even showed up ... because he was too busy socializing in the parking lot (quite literally).  So he hopped into the confessional about 25 minutes before Mass and was able to go through only about half the line.  Shameful.  Meanwhile, my independent priest, Father Carley in Akron, and old pre-V2-ordained priest now in his mid-80s, is in the confessional an hour sharp before Mass starts even when the Church is all but empty.
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    Re: Neo SSPX SPARKS cινιℓ ωαr OVER VACCINE PASSPORTS
    « Reply #9 on: September 27, 2021, 08:23:14 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on September 27, 2021, 08:08:38 PM
    Yes, these are representative of the last couple generations of SSPX priests.  Many of these are now cradle trads and have no first-hand understanding regarding the enormity of the crisis, and have slipped back into a 1950s pre-Vatican-II mindset, which is ripe for sliding right back into Vatican II.  Well done, Bishop Fellay.  This happened under your watch and reflects what you've been teaching in your seminaries.

    I've gone to Mass and to confession from time to time to a couple of these younger priests, and I must say that I don't like them one bit ... even in terms of their spirituality.  I recall one time standing in a Confession line 30 minutes, an by then it had become a very long line, before the priest even showed up ... because he was too busy socializing in the parking lot (quite literally).  So he hopped into the confessional about 25 minutes before Mass and was able to go through only about half the line.  Shameful.  Meanwhile, my independent priest, Father Carley in Akron, and old pre-V2-ordained priest now in his mid-80s, is in the confessional an hour sharp before Mass starts even when the Church is all but empty.

    That's really unfortunate to hear. It sounds really hit-or-miss with the SSPX chapels. I'm fortunate to have Fr. Dean, and lately, Nelson, at our chapel without any of that nonsense. Fr. Nelson has even been offering daily Mass the past few weeks, which is a marked change from only Saturday and Sundays where I'm at.
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    Re: Neo SSPX SPARKS cινιℓ ωαr OVER VACCINE PASSPORTS
    « Reply #10 on: September 27, 2021, 11:10:01 PM »
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    • Quote from: Jr1991 on September 27, 2021, 07:51:14 PM
    From some of the friends that I know who are going to the Neo SSPX chapels, when they ask a priest, they will say something along the line of because of what Bergolio had said, it comes down to personal conscience; in other words, it’s ok to get it if you’re going to lose your job.
    The laity want to know their priest has their best interest in mind, and that he has their back when the going gets tough.  If they wanted someone to okay compromise, they’d be content with the novus ordo “guidance.”
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    Re: Neo SSPX SPARKS cινιℓ ωαr OVER VACCINE PASSPORTS
    « Reply #11 on: September 28, 2021, 12:32:13 AM »
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    • I was told by one of the SSPX priest to avoid it at all cost.
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    « Reply #12 on: September 28, 2021, 12:32:56 AM »
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    • other than that it is a classic Divide et Impera
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    Re: Neo SSPX SPARKS cινιℓ ωαr OVER VACCINE PASSPORTS
    « Reply #13 on: September 28, 2021, 06:47:37 AM »
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    • Quote from: andy on September 28, 2021, 12:32:13 AM
    I was told by one of the SSPX priest to avoid it at all cost.

    Yes, we've seen individual priests come out against the jab, but as a group and quasi-officially, the SSPX has been condoning it and throwing those seeking religious exemptions under the bus.

    Now, Fr. Robinson's letter said religious exemptions are personal and so the priests wouldn't sign them ... because they think the jab is OK.  But I have since learned that some applications for religious exemption do require a signature from some religious leader.
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    « Reply #14 on: September 28, 2021, 07:14:40 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on September 28, 2021, 06:47:37 AM
    Now, Fr. Robinson's letter said religious exemptions are personal and so the priests wouldn't sign them ... because they think the jab is OK.  But I have since learned that some applications for religious exemption do require a signature from some religious leader.

    The exemption letter from Fr. Robinson now making the rounds in the SSPX also acknowledges that the “vaccine” can be licitly received in certain circuмstances, making it, from the employers perspective, worthless (and conceding a disputed point, difficult for many faithful to use).  It is therefore pretty much worthless for use with any employer sharing Gov. Hochul’s position (ie., “Even the Pope says it’s OK.”).
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