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Offline Centroamerica

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Re: My AI discussion with "Francis de Sales"
« Reply #75 on: Yesterday at 01:09:40 PM »
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    • A.I. actually works well by amplifying the intelligence of those using it properly, while understanding its limits and weaknesses, such as when it is wrong. For the user that has limited resources, the results reflect as such. 
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    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...

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    « Reply #76 on: Yesterday at 01:11:39 PM »
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    • Higher-intelligence users tend to get better results not because the AI is smarter for them, but because they ask better questions, notice errors, refine prompts, and integrate outputs critically. In short, AI reflects the operator: garbage in, garbage out; insight in, leverage out.

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    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...

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    Re: My AI discussion with "Francis de Sales"
    « Reply #77 on: Yesterday at 01:22:19 PM »
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    • Quote from: Freind on Yesterday at 12:12:09 PM
    You have to know how to give it facts and how to logically argue. You don't know how. You need to stay away from it, but that has no bearing on the immense worth of AI.
    So to get a clear answer, you cannot simply ask it a clear question. Got it.
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    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    Re: My AI discussion with "Francis de Sales"
    « Reply #78 on: Yesterday at 01:25:58 PM »
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    • Quote from: Stubborn on Yesterday at 01:22:19 PM
    So to get a clear answer, you cannot simply ask it a clear question. Got it.

    No, you don't got it. It depends on the question.
    You aren't capable, so don't blame the system you cannot use correctly.
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    Re: My AI discussion with "Francis de Sales"
    « Reply #79 on: Yesterday at 02:14:15 PM »
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    • I wonder what St Francis de Sales thinks of the answers AI is supplying on his behalf 🤔😅
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    Re: My AI discussion with "Francis de Sales"
    « Reply #80 on: Yesterday at 04:14:11 PM »
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    • Quote from: The Mrs on Yesterday at 02:14:15 PM
    I wonder what St Francis de Sales thinks of the answers AI is supplying on his behalf 🤔😅

    All it means is that the engine is being most directly told to answer based on that Saint's written works' content and style.
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    Re: My AI discussion with "Francis de Sales"
    « Reply #81 on: Today at 04:52:28 AM »
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    • Quote from: Freind on Yesterday at 01:25:58 PM
    No, you don't got it. It depends on the question.
    You aren't capable, so don't blame the system you cannot use correctly.
    I'm not blaming anything, I agree with you: "It depends on the question." I've been saying that all along. 
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    Re: My AI discussion with "Francis de Sales"
    « Reply #82 on: Today at 07:54:11 AM »
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    • Quote from: Stubborn on Today at 04:52:28 AM
    I'm not blaming anything, I agree with you: "It depends on the question." I've been saying that all along.

    One question is not always sufficient because the database needs to be fed facts and a direction often.

    Give it Mortalium Animos and Vatican II and it says Vatican II did not comply with it.

    Then give it a specific paragraph, like the second one from that 1928 encyclical along with what St. Francis de Sales said about a pope becoming an explicit heretic and tell it to make its own conclusion and it says that the pope of Vatican II ceased to be pope. It's called syllogistic logical, a basic of reasoning and our conscience.
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    Re: My AI discussion with "Francis de Sales"
    « Reply #83 on: Today at 10:32:01 AM »
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    • Quote from: Freind on Today at 07:54:11 AM
    One question is not always sufficient because the database needs to be fed facts and a direction often.

    Give it Mortalium Animos and Vatican II and it says Vatican II did not comply with it.

    Then give it a specific paragraph, like the second one from that 1928 encyclical along with what St. Francis de Sales said about a pope becoming an explicit heretic and tell it to make its own conclusion and it says that the pope of Vatican II ceased to be pope. It's called syllogistic logical, a basic of reasoning and our conscience.
    I would guess that over 98% of Catholics have never heard of Moratalium Animos, or Quo Primum, or Pascendi Dominici Gregis, or even Lumen Gentium for that matter. Or if they did, no way would they direct AI to interpret a specific sentence or paragraph and apply that interpretation to a specific pope. Why would they? That's ridiculous.
     
    If they ask it a question at all, they're going too what I did - ask a point blank, clear question, period.  
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    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse
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