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Re: My AI discussion with "Francis de Sales"
« Reply #30 on: December 27, 2025, 05:04:55 PM »
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  • Why don't you just admit you didn't read the whole OP?  The answer is right in it.

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    Re: My AI discussion with "Francis de Sales"
    « Reply #31 on: December 27, 2025, 05:15:11 PM »
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  • The answer is right above - You doubted I could replicate an imaginative conversation with St. Francis, I did.

    I asked him your question - he answered.

    If you don't like his answer why not?

    You didn't read the OP. That is a fact. If you want to respond to any OP you NEED to read the whole thing first. It's like you are cheating.

    It's a conversation you did NOT replicate.



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    Re: My AI discussion with "Francis de Sales"
    « Reply #32 on: December 27, 2025, 05:18:01 PM »
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  • Now you are in denial. Your are starting to remind me of Stubborn in regard to BOD.

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    Re: My AI discussion with "Francis de Sales"
    « Reply #33 on: December 27, 2025, 05:31:45 PM »
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  • I think your version of St. Francis is bad - mine is better.

    Oh, so you did read it, and then tried to cheat!

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    Re: My AI discussion with "Francis de Sales"
    « Reply #34 on: December 27, 2025, 05:38:58 PM »
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  • How?

    You know how.
    You didn't read it, and then you dishonestly asked "Francis de Sales AI" a question while you OMITTED the question/statement I posited that changed the whole course of my discussion with AI.


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    Re: My AI discussion with "Francis de Sales"
    « Reply #35 on: December 27, 2025, 05:46:35 PM »
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  • Well, you would have to share your original chat - for us to test that out. But since you neither provide link or text to copy we will never know. It is just a bunch of accusations l.e., dishonest, cheater, denial, etc.

    More:









    I gave the WHOLE thing in the OP (it's still there), and you dishonestly ignored what I wrote, and dishonestly posted as if I didn't ask AI.

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    Re: My AI discussion with "Francis de Sales"
    « Reply #36 on: December 27, 2025, 05:55:44 PM »
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  • Did you feed your St. Francis AI my whole question?

    Read my OP, it is ALL there.

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    Re: My AI discussion with "Francis de Sales"
    « Reply #37 on: December 27, 2025, 06:02:16 PM »
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  • Perhaps, lay off the sauce right now?

    I'll get back to you tomorrow with what I wrote in the OP.


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    Re: My AI discussion with "Francis de Sales"
    « Reply #38 on: December 27, 2025, 06:15:45 PM »
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  • Don't bother on my account, if you really believe I am a lying, cheating, boozing, deceiving, denier, then I really wouldn't expect much to come from it.

    But I will simply restate, that my Francis model is just plain superior to yours - why?

    Because I feed it the WHOLE question with sources (thx ;)) and he positively pistol-whips your lame version into silent submission.

    Did you read it or not? You refuse to answer directly.

    I quote St. Francis himself on the principle of Protestant baptism that he wrote. You didn't include that.

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    Re: My AI discussion with "Francis de Sales"
    « Reply #39 on: December 27, 2025, 11:04:46 PM »
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  • Fake st Francis 1 vs fake st Francis 2.

    You guys are insane.  AI is not real.  It cannot re-create a person’s ideas. 

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    Re: My AI discussion with "Francis de Sales"
    « Reply #40 on: December 28, 2025, 05:24:34 AM »
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  • Fake st Francis 1 vs fake st Francis 2.

    You guys are insane.  AI is not real.  It cannot re-create a person’s ideas.
    Let them play, it keeps them occupied lol
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse


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    Re: My AI discussion with "Francis de Sales"
    « Reply #41 on: December 28, 2025, 08:59:06 AM »
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  • Fake st Francis 1 vs fake st Francis 2.

    You guys are insane.  AI is not real.  It cannot re-create a person’s ideas.

    The people first to criticize the value of AI are the ones who find AI doesn't support their views.

    Liberals have been criticizing it from the start! Go figure!

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    Re: My AI discussion with "Francis de Sales"
    « Reply #42 on: December 28, 2025, 09:23:49 AM »
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  • Let them play, it keeps them occupied lol

    Let's play a realistic game:


    His Stubborness: 'Let's ask the AI system for where St. Thomas supports BOD'

    AI:                          'Yes, St. Thomas supports it....and here is the quote verbatim'

    His Stubborness: 'AI must be from the devil!'

    That was fun!

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    Re: My AI discussion with "Francis de Sales"
    « Reply #43 on: December 28, 2025, 10:04:40 AM »
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  • Now ask me if I think those Masses that name the manifest heretics in the Canon are pleasing to God or a profanation (regardless of the intention of the minister or laity present) I do believe yes, those are profanations (though I realize they are not intended to be so).

    A little detour for me now. What you profess here has the implication that if Honorius was "perhaps" a heretic in his time, that this would mean that perhaps ALL the Masses in the world would have been profanations in his time. More so, it also implies you think that when Paul VI became a heretic in 1965, that ALL the traditional Masses mentioning him each day, for 3+ years, all over the world were profanations.

    Do you understand that is the direct implication of your belief?

    Are you capable of just saying, "yes", to this?

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    Re: My AI discussion with "Francis de Sales"
    « Reply #44 on: December 28, 2025, 11:38:54 AM »
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  • Let's play a realistic game:


    Ask it if the popes since Vatican 2 are heretics. 

    Answer: No, the popes since Vatican II are not heretics. Catholic doctrine holds that heresy requires the obstinate denial, after reception, of a truth that must be believed with divine and Catholic faith.
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse