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Offline Freind

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Re: My AI discussion with "Francis de Sales"
« Reply #30 on: Yesterday at 06:11:08 PM »
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  • Really? Why is that?

    I just asked the question, look above.

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    Re: My AI discussion with "Francis de Sales"
    « Reply #31 on: Yesterday at 06:13:35 PM »
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  • I just asked the question, look above.
    Nope, nothing there about me not being "successful" about making my own chat with "St. Francis"...


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    Re: My AI discussion with "Francis de Sales"
    « Reply #32 on: Yesterday at 06:14:18 PM »
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  • Nope, nothing there about me not being "successful" about making my own chat with "St. Francis"...

    How about answer my restated question?

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    Re: My AI discussion with "Francis de Sales"
    « Reply #33 on: Yesterday at 06:17:47 PM »
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  • How about answer my restated question?
    You first, why do you doubt my attempt to recreate your conversation with A.I. "St. Francis" will not be "successful" as you said? 

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    Re: My AI discussion with "Francis de Sales"
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    Re: My AI discussion with "Francis de Sales"
    « Reply #36 on: Today at 04:11:15 PM »
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  • Skid, that is not for my personal benefit. I have always known and agreed the priest cannot knowingly put a false pope in the canon. 

    My thing is about whether it is intrinsically evil for a sedevacantist to assist at a mass where the priest unknowingly puts a false pope in the canon but believes he is a true pope.



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    Re: My AI discussion with "Francis de Sales"
    « Reply #37 on: Today at 04:49:55 PM »
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  • Skid, that is not for my personal benefit. I have always known and agreed the priest cannot knowingly put a false pope in the canon.

    My thing is about whether it is intrinsically evil for a sedevacantist to assist at a mass where the priest unknowingly puts a false pope in the canon but believes he is a true pope.
    🌿 A Pastoral Letter in the Spirit of St. Francis de Sales

    My dear child in Our Lord,
    Peace be in your heart. When questions arise that touch the holy altar and the worship we owe to God, they must be approached with both firmness in truth and great gentleness of spirit. For nothing so honors God as a conscience kept in simplicity and peace.

    You ask whether you may assist at a Mass where the priest, in good faith, names in the Canon one whom you judge with moral certainty to be separated from the Church by manifest heresy. Let us consider this with calmness and clarity.

    First, remember that God does not condemn the priest who acts in ignorance. He intends to honor the Church as he understands her, and the Lord receives the good will of His servants. But your own conscience is another matter. If you see clearly that the commemoration signifies a unity that is not truly present, then for you the act becomes a false sign. And the heart that knows a thing to be false must not join itself to it, for Our Lord desires that we worship Him “in spirit and in truth.”

    The Church teaches that no one may act against a certain conscience, for to do so is to choose what one judges to be evil. Even if the act is not evil in itself, it becomes evil for the one who knowingly embraces what his conscience condemns. Thus, if you believe with firm and prudent certainty that the Canon is falsified, you must refrain from assisting at such a Mass, not out of harshness toward the priest, but out of fidelity to the truth God has shown you.

    Do not be troubled by this. God does not bind you to what your conscience judges to be sinful. The obligation to hear Mass does not oblige when its fulfillment would require you to cooperate in what you believe to be a sacrilege. The Lord is a gentle Master; He asks for obedience, but never at the cost of the soul’s integrity.

    Walk, then, in peace. Avoid bitterness, avoid judgment of persons, avoid all harsh speech. Hold fast to the truth as God gives you to see it, but hold it with charity, humility, and patience. If you must refrain from a particular Mass, do so quietly, without reproach, and with a heart full of prayer for the priest and for the whole Church.

    May the Savior, who is meek and humble of heart, guide your conscience, strengthen your resolve, and keep you always in His peace.
    Yours in the gentle Heart of Jesus,

    Francis




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    Re: My AI discussion with "Francis de Sales"
    « Reply #38 on: Today at 04:51:47 PM »
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  • 🌿 A Pastoral Letter in the Spirit of St. Francis de Sales

    My dear child in Our Lord,
    Peace be in your heart. When questions arise that touch the holy altar and the worship we owe to God, they must be approached with both firmness in truth and great gentleness of spirit. For nothing so honors God as a conscience kept in simplicity and peace.

    You ask whether you may assist at a Mass where the priest, in good faith, names in the Canon one whom you judge with moral certainty to be separated from the Church by manifest heresy. Let us consider this with calmness and clarity.

    First, remember that God does not condemn the priest who acts in ignorance. He intends to honor the Church as he understands her, and the Lord receives the good will of His servants. But your own conscience is another matter. If you see clearly that the commemoration signifies a unity that is not truly present, then for you the act becomes a false sign. And the heart that knows a thing to be false must not join itself to it, for Our Lord desires that we worship Him “in spirit and in truth.”

    The Church teaches that no one may act against a certain conscience, for to do so is to choose what one judges to be evil. Even if the act is not evil in itself, it becomes evil for the one who knowingly embraces what his conscience condemns. Thus, if you believe with firm and prudent certainty that the Canon is falsified, you must refrain from assisting at such a Mass, not out of harshness toward the priest, but out of fidelity to the truth God has shown you.

    Do not be troubled by this. God does not bind you to what your conscience judges to be sinful. The obligation to hear Mass does not oblige when its fulfillment would require you to cooperate in what you believe to be a sacrilege. The Lord is a gentle Master; He asks for obedience, but never at the cost of the soul’s integrity.

    Walk, then, in peace. Avoid bitterness, avoid judgment of persons, avoid all harsh speech. Hold fast to the truth as God gives you to see it, but hold it with charity, humility, and patience. If you must refrain from a particular Mass, do so quietly, without reproach, and with a heart full of prayer for the priest and for the whole Church.

    May the Savior, who is meek and humble of heart, guide your conscience, strengthen your resolve, and keep you always in His peace.
    Yours in the gentle Heart of Jesus,

    Francis


    This proves positive that you didn't read all of the OP.

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    Re: My AI discussion with "Francis de Sales"
    « Reply #39 on: Today at 04:55:46 PM »
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  • This proves positive that you didn't read all of the OP.
    I asked it your question - this was "his" answer, what problem do you have? 

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    Re: My AI discussion with "Francis de Sales"
    « Reply #40 on: Today at 04:57:52 PM »
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  • I asked it your question - this was "his" answer, what problem do you have?

    You didn't read the OP is the problem.
    With AI you need to feed it facts for it to consider. It doesn't naturally consider everything in the world.


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    Re: My AI discussion with "Francis de Sales"
    « Reply #41 on: Today at 05:01:39 PM »
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  • You didn't read the OP is the problem.
    With AI you need to feed it facts for it to consider. It doesn't naturally considering everything in the world.





    What is wrong with these answers? 

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    Re: My AI discussion with "Francis de Sales"
    « Reply #42 on: Today at 05:04:55 PM »
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  • Why don't you just admit you didn't read the whole OP?  The answer is right in it.

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    « Reply #43 on: Today at 05:10:03 PM »
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  • Why don't you just admit you didn't read the whole OP?  The answer is right in it
    The answer is right above - You doubted I could replicate an imaginative conversation with St. Francis, I did.

    I asked him your question - he answered.

    If you don't like his answer why not? 

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    Re: My AI discussion with "Francis de Sales"
    « Reply #44 on: Today at 05:15:11 PM »
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  • The answer is right above - You doubted I could replicate an imaginative conversation with St. Francis, I did.

    I asked him your question - he answered.

    If you don't like his answer why not?

    You didn't read the OP. That is a fact. If you want to respond to any OP you NEED to read the whole thing first. It's like you are cheating.

    It's a conversation you did NOT replicate.