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Title: Murder scene - Thuc
Post by: TomGubbinsKimmage on November 10, 2025, 06:48:57 PM
Imagine the scene.

You come around an alley corner to see a woman dead on the ground covered in blood...

Standing over her is a man with a knife in his hand and blood on his hands.

Did he kill her? Well it looks like it, doesn't it? But it should be investigated. We cannot say definitely yes. As he could be simply there before us and went to help her. We cannot say definitely no. It has to be investigated.

But the dogmatic thuc believers are the equivalent of those who would insist the man is innocent because of xyz reason. With no investigation !

Wisdom however tells us to be cautious.

The matter is serious. It is murder. In the case of Thuc it is the murder of souls.
Title: Re: Murder scene - Thuc
Post by: LeDeg on November 10, 2025, 06:58:46 PM
As someone who attends an SSPX chapel and have attended many +Lefebrve-line chapels, you come across as batshit crazy. Did something happen to you as a child? 
Title: Re: Murder scene - Thuc
Post by: TomGubbinsKimmage on November 10, 2025, 06:59:47 PM
As someone who attends an SSPX chapel and have attended many +Lefebrve-line chapels, you come across as batshit crazy. Did something happen to you as a child?


Distraction.


Or maybe you're just another simpleton.


Take your pick
Title: Re: Murder scene - Thuc
Post by: TomGubbinsKimmage on November 10, 2025, 07:03:50 PM
Guess we have a lot of Thuc cultists on this site.

Way more than I realized.


Touching a nerve but that's Good.


This mule needs a good caning.
Title: Re: Murder scene - Thuc
Post by: WorldsAway on November 10, 2025, 07:11:38 PM
Imagine the scene.

You come around an alley corner to see a woman dead on the ground covered in blood...

Standing over her is a man with a knife in his hand and blood on his hands. There's no one else around, but the next day The Angelus, without any proof, claims Archbishop Thuc did it.

Did he kill her? Well it looks like it, doesn't it?The Angelus said so, didn't it? But it should be investigated. We cannot say definitely yes. As he The Angelus could be simply mistaken there before us and went to help her. We cannot say definitely no. It has to be investigated.

But the dogmatic thuc The Angelus believers are the equivalent of those who would insist the man is innocent guilty because of xyz reason The Angelus said so.

Wisdom however tells us to be cautious.

The matter is serious. It is murder calumny. In the case of Thuc it is the murder of calumny against an Archbishop and the damnation of the calumniators souls.
:incense:

Tom, why did you post on your alternate account today? This one: https://www.cathinfo.com/profile/Traditional%2BSermons/

 (https://www.cathinfo.com/profile/Traditional%2BSermons/)I'm pretty sure holding multiple active accounts is a bannable offense
Title: Re: Murder scene - Thuc
Post by: LeDeg on November 10, 2025, 07:12:15 PM

Distraction.


Or maybe you're just another simpleton.


Take your pick
Maybe you're a red sea pedestrian trying to sow seeds of doubt? Maybe your wife isn't giving you any and you're repressed? Maybe you're a Dyer follower, or John Pontrello in disguise? Angry, mentally deranged persons can have all sorts of reasons for their behavior.  

And if I was a simpleton, it would be more than enough to deal with a POS like you.
Title: Re: Murder scene - Thuc
Post by: TomGubbinsKimmage on November 10, 2025, 07:29:48 PM
Maybe you're a red sea pedestrian trying to sow seeds of doubt? Maybe your wife isn't giving you any and you're repressed? Maybe you're a Dyer follower, or John Pontrello in disguise? Angry, mentally deranged persons can have all sorts of reasons for their behavior. 

And if I was a simpleton, it would be more than enough to deal with a POS like you.


Ok so just mentally deranged then like Thuc.
Title: Re: Murder scene - Thuc
Post by: TomGubbinsKimmage on November 10, 2025, 07:31:21 PM
Worlds away. You have missed the point that this is about prudence.
Title: Re: Murder scene - Thuc
Post by: LeDeg on November 10, 2025, 07:32:17 PM

Ok so just mentally deranged then like Thuc.
So you're admittng you are deranged like the man (+Thuc) you accused of being deranged?
Title: Re: Murder scene - Thuc
Post by: TomGubbinsKimmage on November 10, 2025, 07:34:03 PM
So you're admittng you are deranged like the man (+Thuc) you accused of being deranged?
No you are obviously deranged is what I said
Title: Re: Murder scene - Thuc
Post by: LeDeg on November 10, 2025, 07:40:00 PM
No you are obviously deranged is what I said
I realize reading comprehension is not your strong suit, so English must be a second language for you. Your post was:

"Ok so just mentally deranged then like Thuc."

So, gramatically, that could be read as I assumed it was meant to be read as. Maybe you're an editor for Angelus magazine. It would explain your confusion.
Title: Re: Murder scene - Thuc
Post by: Everlast22 on November 10, 2025, 07:42:32 PM
As someone who attends an SSPX chapel and have attended many +Lefebrve-line chapels, you come across as batshit crazy. Did something happen to you as a child?
nothing.. nothing happened to him, that's the problem :laugh1:  

(SMACK!!!!!!!!!)
Title: Re: Murder scene - Thuc
Post by: TomGubbinsKimmage on November 10, 2025, 07:44:10 PM
I realize reading comprehension is not your strong suit, so English must be a second language for you. Your post was:

"Ok so just mentally deranged then like Thuc."

So, gramatically, that could be read as I assumed it was meant to be read as. Maybe you're an editor for Angelus magazine. It would explain your confusion.


yea there was confusion.

However nowhere near the kind of confusion that would ever have me withhold intention in a sacrament
Title: Re: Murder scene - Thuc
Post by: TomGubbinsKimmage on November 10, 2025, 07:45:19 PM
nothing.. nothing happened to him, that's the problem :laugh1: 

(SMACK!!!!!!!!!)
Stop going to the CMRI chapel.

Or at least go to a sede web forum
Title: Re: Murder scene - Thuc
Post by: Everlast22 on November 10, 2025, 07:46:38 PM
Stop going to the CMRI chapel.

Or at least go to a sede web forum
I don't go to a CMRI chapel. And you can kick dirt, kid. You can go to an autistic web forum. Probably fit in better there.
Title: Re: Murder scene - Thuc
Post by: TomGubbinsKimmage on November 10, 2025, 07:51:26 PM
I don't go to a CMRI chapel. And you can kick dirt, kid. You can go to an autistic web forum. Probably fit in better there.


I'm just smarter than you.

Sorry it makes you feel bad.
Title: Re: Murder scene - Thuc
Post by: Everlast22 on November 10, 2025, 07:53:24 PM

I'm just smarter than you.

Sorry it makes you feel bad.
smarter..

 you definitely lack humility, my guy.
Title: Re: Murder scene - Thuc
Post by: LeDeg on November 10, 2025, 07:54:55 PM
I don't go to a CMRI chapel. And you can kick dirt, kid. You can go to an autistic web forum. Probably fit in better there.
Assumptions are the mother of all f**k- ups. The douche bag called me a +Thuc cultist when I clearly explained I attended a SSPX chapel. 

The real theological question is how many times must we flush before Tommy finally goes down the drain? I think he is too dumb to realize to quit while he is behind.

I would wish you a lot of luck, Tommy, but you wouldnt know what to do to with it.
Title: Re: Murder scene - Thuc
Post by: Everlast22 on November 10, 2025, 07:59:41 PM
Assumptions are the mother of all f**k- ups. The douche bag called me a +Thuc cultist when I clearly explained I attended a SSPX chapel.

The real theological question is how many times must we flush before Tommy finally goes down the drain? I think he is too dumb to realize to quit while he is behind.

I would wish you a lot of luck, Tommy, but you wouldnt know what to do to with it.
He's autistic. I'm not even trying to be funny.

or,

a plant. One of those two things.
Title: Re: Murder scene - Thuc
Post by: Ladislaus on November 10, 2025, 08:02:27 PM
Same ... claimed that the reason I defend the validity of the (main) +Thuc line of bishops is because I frequent Sacraments from a priest or bishop from that line.

I think I went to one maybe 25 years ago now, for a single Confession and Communion ... and I really don't like most of the groups that come from the line, or, maybe it's that they don't like me, since I'm a hated "Feeneyite", whom CMRI, +Sanborn group, +Dolan group all despite and would likely refuse Sacraments to me if they knew.

So, no ... I defend the truth as I see it.
Title: Re: Murder scene - Thuc
Post by: Ladislaus on November 10, 2025, 08:05:09 PM
As someone who attends an SSPX chapel and have attended many +Lefebrve-line chapels, you come across as batshit crazy. Did something happen to you as a child?

He's also a lying slanderer, constantly making up strawmen, such as that those who defend the validity of the +Thuc line are "dogmatic sedes".  CMRI are relatively mild sedes, and I'm a privationis myself and dislike Totalist SVism, if anything lean sedeprivationist, but believe the true answer lies in the so-called "Siri Theory".
Title: Re: Murder scene - Thuc
Post by: LeDeg on November 10, 2025, 08:10:34 PM
Same ... claimed that the reason I defend the validity of the (main) +Thuc line of bishops is because I frequent Sacraments from a priest or bishop from that line.

I think I went to one maybe 25 years ago now, for a single Confession and Communion ... and I really don't like most of the groups that come from the line, or, maybe it's that they don't like me, since I'm a hated "Feeneyite", whom CMRI, +Sanborn group, +Dolan group all despite and would likely refuse Sacraments to me if they knew.

So, no ... I defend the truth as I see it.
Lad, you know full well the SSPX and their ilk would do the same to you. Keep in mind, +Lefebrve stated on pages 214-218 in "Against the Heresies" that Jews, Muslims, etc can go to heaven. He put it in print. By that reckoning, would Tommy boy stay away from +Lefebrve because of this? I am sure he would 'splain it to save his own assinine line of thinking.
Title: Re: Murder scene - Thuc
Post by: Ladislaus on November 10, 2025, 08:14:23 PM

Ok so just mentally deranged then like Thuc.

See, here's an example of why this Scuмmage scuмbag should have been banned long ago.  EVEN IF you want to assert that the Archbishop labored under some debility toward the of his life, you STILL REFER TO HIM with the respect owed to an Archbishop, and you don't just smear him as "Thuc", you piece of garbage and you don't use derisive terms like "mentally deranged", but extend charity and compassion for him.  He is Archbishop Thuc, someone who had received three advanced degrees and founded seminaries, whereas your an unaccomplished ignorant twit, and maybe, just maybe, after 10 years of working there, you might receive consideration to be the shift manager at a McDonald's.

While Matthew alows this crap to go on ... he's also equally culpable and guilty of permitting slander.  He permitted slander for the better part of a year against Archbishop Vigano.  Does nothing.  But I merely pointed out 2-3 points of undisputed and well-known fact about the career of Bishop Williamson, a man whom I otherwise respect, and THEN he decides he's going to exercise moderator skills and cut those out of my post.  But Archbishop Vigano, or Archbishop Thuc ... fair game, just smear, slander, and lie to your heart's content.  Just start making shit up like how +Vigano was a Satanic sun-worshpping Freemason.  Go for it.  Or, even, at lower levels, just claim that Labeof's conversion to Catholicism was "fake", because he's an actor, or the continuing allegations that have gone on here for years claiming that Mel Gibson is a Freemason/ Illuminati.  And on and on and on, and nothing is done.

That's bullshit, Matthew ... and this forum is garbage until you step in and put an end to it, and you're an accomplice in his sin of slander.
Title: Re: Murder scene - Thuc
Post by: TomGubbinsKimmage on November 10, 2025, 08:20:44 PM
smarter..

 you definitely lack humility, my guy.
Irony not your strong suit I see
Title: Re: Murder scene - Thuc
Post by: TomGubbinsKimmage on November 10, 2025, 08:21:47 PM
Assumptions are the mother of all f**k- ups. The douche bag called me a +Thuc cultist when I clearly explained I attended a SSPX chapel.

The real theological question is how many times must we flush before Tommy finally goes down the drain? I think he is too dumb to realize to quit while he is behind.

I would wish you a lot of luck, Tommy, but you wouldnt know what to do to with it.
Bishop Williamson explained how liberalism (now SSPX sadly) and Sedevacantism are two sides of the same coin.

So you belong there.
Title: Re: Murder scene - Thuc
Post by: TomGubbinsKimmage on November 10, 2025, 08:23:10 PM
He's autistic. I'm not even trying to be funny.

or,

a plant. One of those two things.
Defending Thuc line Sacraments makes you practically a plant.

I dunno what you are rambling on about.
Title: Re: Murder scene - Thuc
Post by: LeDeg on November 10, 2025, 08:29:55 PM
Bishop Williamson explained how liberalism (now SSPX sadly) and Sedevacantism are two sides of the same coin.

So you belong there.
Ah, +Williamson locuta est. 

You belong in a rubber room. 
Title: Re: Murder scene - Thuc
Post by: TomGubbinsKimmage on November 10, 2025, 08:30:55 PM
Ah, +Williamson locuta est.

You belong in a rubber room.

Have fun with Bishop Fellay!
Title: Re: Murder scene - Thuc
Post by: LeDeg on November 10, 2025, 08:34:49 PM
Have fun with Bishop Fellay!
If I feel spiritually nourished by the Novus Ordo, should I go? I know, I'll check to see what +Williamson has to say. He's always right.
Title: Re: Murder scene - Thuc
Post by: SimonJude on November 10, 2025, 09:50:48 PM
I realize reading comprehension is not your strong suit, so English must be a second language for you. Your post was:

"Ok so just mentally deranged then like Thuc."

So, gramatically, that could be read as I assumed it was meant to be read as. Maybe you're an editor for Angelus magazine. It would explain your confusion.
Hahahahahahaha!!! 

Thanks for the laugh!  Excellent.
Title: Re: Murder scene - Thuc
Post by: charette on November 10, 2025, 10:04:10 PM
If I feel spiritually nourished by the Novus Ordo, should I go? I know, I'll check to see what +Williamson has to say. He's always right.
You bring up an interesting point, his grace Bishop Williamson did say that the Novus Ordo can nourish one’s faith, Bishop Zendejas recent sermon states that the doubt applied is not “systematic” which means it’s not intrinsically evil, which goes against the entire pre-2012 SSPX position.  

+
Lefebvre, Father Hesse and others have clearly taught otherwise. 

However just because Bishop Williamson has also said to do what you “need to do to nourish your faith”it does not mean you should take his advice and attend the Concilliar SSPX of Bishop Fellay.