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Title: More on Sister Lucy of Fatima
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on March 07, 2021, 11:59:22 AM
 
1957- "The Last Interview of Sister Lucy of Fatima" - Updated. Forget "Diabolical Disorientation," these are the Last Words to the World of Sister Lucy of Fatima. (http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/RadtradThomist/~3/5MrrqYWPEWs/1957-last-interview-of-sister-lucy-of.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email)
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Title: Re: More on Sister Lucy of Fatima
Post by: Tallinn Trad on March 12, 2021, 02:49:22 AM
I can see the motive of the Vatican in bumping Lucia off.  I don't see what they gained by installing the imposter.

Why not just take Lucia's writings, burn what was inconvenient and forge writings that backed Vatican II.

The imposter Sister Lucia did very little.  Even the confirmation that Heaven had accepted the consecration was not made on video.  If you have an imposter why not have the words come directly out of her mouth.

If the imposter does nothing for the modernists then it is purely a downside risk installing her.  She could be exposed or expose herself fearing hell for her deception. 

In 1959 Sister Lucia was quoted in Catholic newspapers calling Father Fuentes a liar.  The whole newspaper can be found online and the article in question was the headline one.

Now, sure that could be the fake Sister Lucia, replaced between 1957 and 1959 but I would like some proof of that. 

Looks to me like the same person after dental work.  I fail to see how the Church finds a close match to her looks and convinces her to take on a false ID and live in a cloister for the rest of her life? 
Title: Re: More on Sister Lucy of Fatima
Post by: Ladislaus on March 12, 2021, 04:03:37 AM
Coverup for the fact that they killed her?  Had she died around 1960, questions would have been asked.  Also, the imposter was trotted out to tell everyone that the Consecration had been done by JP2 and to confirm the Vatican’s version of the Third Secret.  I’m certain that the Third Secret exposed the infiltrators and they planned to suppress it by releasing a fake version or just a partial one.

Using doubles was a favorite tactic of the Communists.
Title: Re: More on Sister Lucy of Fatima
Post by: Ladislaus on March 12, 2021, 04:05:45 AM
No, it is absolutely NOT the same person with dental work.  The imposter looks nothing like the real Sister Lucy.

Aren’t you the one who rejects Fatima anyway?
Title: Re: More on Sister Lucy of Fatima
Post by: DecemRationis on March 12, 2021, 07:59:54 AM
Quote from: Tallinn Trad on March 12, 2021, 02:49:22 AM

The imposter Sister Lucia did very little.  Even the confirmation that Heaven had accepted the consecration was not made on video.  If you have an imposter why not have the words come directly out of her mouth.

 
A video would provide another opportunity (a very good one) for scrutiny and comparison with the real Sister Lucia. That would be a good reason not to have a video. 
Title: Re: More on Sister Lucy of Fatima
Post by: Tradman on March 12, 2021, 09:14:30 AM
Quote from: Tallinn Trad on March 12, 2021, 02:49:22 AM


Looks to me like the same person after dental work.  I fail to see how the Church finds a close match to her looks and convinces her to take on a false ID and live in a cloister for the rest of her life?
Imagine a card game. Only those are allowed to play who can see no difference in the two Lucys in the various photos on the cards. All the players have to do is correctly separate the photos of the two Lucys. James Martin SJ would have to pay winners $10,000 in cash but only to those who can separate all the cards correctly. Every single person who initially saw no difference in the two Lucys, would suddenly see the differences, and win the game. Y'all just need a little motivation.   
Title: Re: More on Sister Lucy of Fatima
Post by: Frank on March 12, 2021, 01:34:54 PM
Listen to what the fake sister Lucy says in this interview about "conversion of Russia" at about the 9:50 mark.
She gives the classic liberal/ modernistic definition of "conversion".
If she were the real sister Lucy, she would have explicitly said that conversion means becoming Catholic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fHmtZlbVbc
Title: Re: More on Sister Lucy of Fatima
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on March 12, 2021, 01:54:54 PM
John the 23rd was a Freemason.
Title: Re: More on Sister Lucy of Fatima
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on March 15, 2021, 07:19:45 AM
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When does multi-million dollar Fatima, Inc. cease to be invincibly ignorant and become complicit in the substitution of an imposter for the real Sister Lucy of Fatima? They are now profiting off of the words and stolen persona presented by the Imposter and her Vatican handlers. The evidence is clear to 8 years olds. See, sisterlucytruth.org (http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/RadtradThomist/~3/olsMFJ1fRFU/when-does-multi-million-dollar-fatima.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email)
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These are some of the clearest, cleanest, and most focused pictures comparing Sister Lucy I and the Imposter, Sister Lucy II (post-1959). I don't think that the Fatima Industry can any longer be morally innocent of the imposture due to invincible ignorance, not after sisterlucytruth.org (http://sisterlucytruth.org)


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Title: Re: More on Sister Lucy of Fatima
Post by: Ladislaus on March 15, 2021, 07:28:09 AM
I agree that an 8-year-old can look at the pictures and see that they're not the same person.
Title: Re: More on Sister Lucy of Fatima
Post by: Incredulous on March 15, 2021, 08:33:11 AM
Quote from: Ladislaus on March 12, 2021, 04:05:45 AM
No, it is absolutely NOT the same person with dental work.  The imposter looks nothing like the real Sister Lucy.

Aren’t you the one who rejects Fatima anyway?


Ah, this type of makeover is no biggy.

Jewess princesses do major cosmetic surgeries like this quite often:

1. Eye spacing ($500K)
2. Nose job ($75K)
3. Cheek-Dimple reversal ($150K)
4. Teeth replacement ($7K)

And $732K should be chicken feed for the Carmelites  :popcorn:

Title: Re: More on Sister Lucy of Fatima
Post by: Ladislaus on March 15, 2021, 08:42:50 AM
Quote from: Incredulous on March 15, 2021, 08:33:11 AM

Ah, this type of makeover is no biggy.

Jewess princesses do major cosmetic surgeries like this quite often:

1. Eye spacing ($500K)
2. Nose job ($75K)
3. Cheek-Dimple reversal ($150K)
4. Teeth replacement ($7K)

And $732K should be chicken feed for the Carmelites  :popcorn:

So you're arguing for the forced cosmetic surgery theory.   :laugh1:

Or perhaps Sister Lucy herself requested the makeover.

Nosejobs are only about $10K, BTW.  I know because my son needed one done due to a badly deviated septum that interfered with his ability to breathe, and that was the price quoted for the cosmetic repair (after the nose would have been messed up due to the repair process).
Title: Re: More on Sister Lucy of Fatima
Post by: josefamenendez on March 15, 2021, 08:51:43 AM
Quote from: Incredulous on March 15, 2021, 08:33:11 AM

Ah, this type of makeover is no biggy.

Jewess princesses do major cosmetic surgeries like this quite often:

1. Eye spacing ($500K)
2. Nose job ($75K)
3. Cheek-Dimple reversal ($150K)
4. Teeth replacement ($7K)

And $732K should be chicken feed for the Carmelites  :popcorn:
I gather it would be easier and cheaper just to find someone who doesn't look like her to begin with and put her in the Sr Lucy role (but what's the point in that??) Isn't the objective to look like the original Sr Lucy for the deep fake?
Then there is also the handwriting analysis and maybe voiceprints ( not sure if they have #1's voice on tape or not)
Title: Re: More on Sister Lucy of Fatima
Post by: Incredulous on March 15, 2021, 08:52:04 AM


Of course, the idea that the original Sister Lucy had cosmetic surgeries and a rework of her entire dentition is ludicrous.

TIA had pointed out, at the time of their 2nd Sr. Lucy discovery that the demeanor and countenance of the new Sr. Lucy had changed too.

In fact, this "relaxed, worldly Nun" image portrayed in the Italian press in 2005 was the key tip-off to them that there was an imposter.
Title: Re: More on Sister Lucy of Fatima
Post by: Ladislaus on March 15, 2021, 12:31:08 PM
Quote from: Incredulous on March 15, 2021, 08:52:04 AM
Of course, the idea that the original Sister Lucy had cosmetic surgeries and a rework of her entire dentition is ludicrous.

Right, I get it; I was just playing along.
Title: Re: More on Sister Lucy of Fatima
Post by: Emile on March 15, 2021, 02:29:17 PM
http://radtradthomist.chojnowski.me/2021/03/if-truth-about-replacement-of-sister.html
Title: Re: More on Sister Lucy of Fatima
Post by: Emile on March 15, 2021, 05:20:18 PM
Quote from: Emile on March 15, 2021, 02:29:17 PM
http://radtradthomist.chojnowski.me/2021/03/if-truth-about-replacement-of-sister.html
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Title: Re: More on Sister Lucy of Fatima
Post by: Your Friend Colin on March 15, 2021, 07:51:16 PM
When did Dr. Chojnowski become sedevacantist?
Title: Re: More on Sister Lucy of Fatima
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on March 29, 2021, 12:38:33 AM
 The Original Video of the Last Visit of Sister Lucia to Fatima In 1946. This is from the Fatima Shrine itself. Does this Look or Seem like the Woman who was with JPII?


- March 28, 2021  (http://radtradthomist.chojnowski.me/2021/03/the-original-video-of-last-visit-of.html)

https://youtu.be/WqtKUyHBMYo (http://radtradthomist.chojnowski.me/2021/03/the-original-video-of-last-visit-of.html)



http://radtradthomist.chojnowski.me/2021/03/the-original-video-of-last-visit-of
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Title: Re: More on Sister Lucy of Fatima
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on April 03, 2021, 04:36:25 AM
http://radtradthomist.chojnowski.me/2021/04/fatima-faces-ii-attitude-bone-structure.html?utm_