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More on Leo XIV
« on: May 21, 2025, 02:06:08 PM »
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    Leo XIV's True Last Name is not Prévost, but Riggitano

    Pope Leo XIV's paternal grandfather was from Milazzo, in the province of Messina in Sicily.
    His name was Salvatore Giovanni Riggitano. He was born in Milazzo on 24 June 1876.
    Riggitano's birth and marriage certificates, issued by the municipality of Milazzo, have been published.

    Salvatore left Italy on the ship Lombardia, which set sail from Naples and arrived in Quincy, Illinois, in 1904. His sister Rosa remained in New York.  In America, Salvatore Giovanni became John. He also changed his surname to Prévost, the surname of his wife Suzanne's mother.

    An advertisement for a certain ‘Riggitano-Prevost’ appeared in the Chicago Tribune on 6 May 1934.

    In 1940, at the request of the authorities, he declared that he was not an American citizen and that his name was John Riggitano Prevost, although he had entered the United States under the name Salvatore Giovanni Riggitano Alioto.

    Why did Riggitano become Prevost?
    The name change from Riggitano to Prevost likely stems from a scandal that rocked the family in 1917.

    At the time, John Riggitano was a language teacher in Chicago. His wife, Daisy Hughes, accused him of adultery with Suzanna Louise Marie Fontaine, a woman from France. The affair made headlines in the Quincy Daily Herald, and both John and Suzanna were briefly arrested.

    To escape the scandal and legal consequences, John fled with Suzanna, abandoning Daisy, whom he had married in 1914. He left Illinois and reemerged in New York under the name Jean Prevost.

    Shortly after, his son, John (Jean) Centi Prevost—the uncle of the current pope—was born. In 1920, another son, Louis Marius Prevost, the father of Leo XIV, was born in Chicago. Both birth records listed Jean Prevost, born in France, as the father.

    Persto: So Leo's grandparents lied on Leo's father's birth certificate, due to an adulterous 2nd marriage.
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    Re: More on Leo XIV
    « Reply #1 on: May 21, 2025, 02:46:08 PM »
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    Persto: So Leo's grandparents lied on Leo's father's birth certificate, due to an adulterous 2nd marriage.

    But it was "a stable union between a man and a woman", the gold standard according to their grandson's speech on last Friday!  Which is probably good enough for his predecessor, whom he strongly felt the spiritual presence of "accompanying us from heaven” (or somewhere).  Probably good enough to meet the Amoris Laetitia requirements to communicate.


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    Re: More on Leo XIV
    « Reply #2 on: May 21, 2025, 03:16:41 PM »
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    Leo XIV's True Last Name is not Prévost, but Riggitano

    Pope Leo XIV's paternal grandfather was from Milazzo, in the province of Messina in Sicily.
    His name was Salvatore Giovanni Riggitano. He was born in Milazzo on 24 June 1876.
    Riggitano's birth and marriage certificates, issued by the municipality of Milazzo, have been published.

    Salvatore left Italy on the ship Lombardia, which set sail from Naples and arrived in Quincy, Illinois, in 1904. His sister Rosa remained in New York.  In America, Salvatore Giovanni became John. He also changed his surname to Prévost, the surname of his wife ...

    In 1940, at the request of the authorities, he declared that he was not an American citizen and that his name was John Riggitano Prevost, although he had entered the United States under the name Salvatore Giovanni Riggitano Alioto.

    Why did Riggitano become Prevost?
    ...Daisy Hughes, accused him of adultery with Suzanna Louise Marie Fontaine, a woman from France. The affair made headlines in the Quincy Daily Herald, and both John and Suzanna were briefly arrested....

    To escape the scandal and legal consequences, John fled with .... another son, Louis Marius Prevost, the father of Leo XIV, was born in Chicago. Both birth records listed Jean Prevost, born in France, as the father.

    Persto: So Leo's grandparents lied on Leo's father's birth certificate, due to an adulterous 2nd marriage.
    "...Both birth records listed Jean Prevost, born in France, as the father.

    ..."

    Can someone make a Family Tree diagram?  I am confused about the son (s), who was born in France. 
    Was Jean a legitimate baby? ... Catholic wise? Looks like a hellthy trEE ♧ ¿
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    Re: More on Leo XIV
    « Reply #3 on: May 21, 2025, 03:20:15 PM »
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    Leo XIV's True Last Name is not Prévost, but Riggitano

    Pope Leo XIV's paternal grandfather was from Milazzo…

    In 1940, at the request of the authorities, he declared that he was not an American citizen and that his name was John Riggitano Prevost, although he had entered the United States under the name Salvatore Giovanni Riggitano Alioto.
    The classic Italian immigrant stereotype:

    ”With Out Papers”
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: More on Leo XIV
    « Reply #4 on: May 21, 2025, 03:21:47 PM »
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  • But it was "a stable union between a man and a woman", the gold standard according to their grandson's speech on last Friday!  Which is probably good enough for his predecessor, whom he strongly felt the spiritual presence of "accompanying us from heaven” (or somewhere).  Probably good enough to meet the Amoris Laetitia requirements to communicate.
    Good enough to meet the counterfeit church's standards, but not those of Our Lord Jesus Christ, and Catholic teaching prior to Vatican 2.
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    Re: More on Leo XIV
    « Reply #5 on: May 21, 2025, 03:37:57 PM »
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  • "...Both birth records listed Jean Prevost, born in France, as the father.

    ..."

    Can someone make a Family Tree disgram?  I am confused about the son (s), who was born in France. 
    Was Jean a legitimate baby?  Catholic wise?
    Leo's grandfather Salvatore  Giovanni Riggatano, was born in Sicily not France.  His son's (Leo's father and uncle) were born in the US.
    So it is not the "son(s) who were born in France" - rather Leo's grandfather who lied about being born there.  When he fled from Chicago to New York with his mistress, he changed his first and last name (to Jean Prevost) & his place of birth (to France) and took on a French identity and name.  This was so he could get married a 2nd time, and evade the law.  Also, so that Leo's father and uncle were not listed as illegitimate on their birth certificates. 
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    Re: More on Leo XIV
    « Reply #6 on: May 21, 2025, 04:02:48 PM »
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  • https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/265707268/susanne_louisa_marie-pr%C3%A9vost
    This is Leo's Paternal Grandmother (the mistress)
    Suzanne Louisa Marie Fontaine Prévost
    1894 – 1979 • Holy Sepulchre Cemetery
    Suzanne Louise Marie FONTAINE (Susanne Louisa Marie Prevost) was born on February 2, 1894, in Le Havre, Seine-Maritime, France.
    She was the daughter of Ernest Auguste FONTAINE, a pastrycook and Jeanne Eugénie PRÉVOST.
    Jean-Luc Coubronne, Pas-de-Calais, France

    When she fled to New York with Leo's grandfather, he used her mother's last name Prevost, as his new identity. He also changed Salvatore to Jean, but later changed that to John.
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    Re: More on Leo XIV
    « Reply #7 on: May 21, 2025, 04:40:10 PM »
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  • Proof that Leo's grandfather was named  Salvatore Giovanni Riggitano Alioto, and was born in Italy.  He changed his name first to Jean Prevost, and then to John Riggitano Prevost, and later to John Prevost. 
    He had to fill out this form, because he had no true identity papers to match his name change.



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    Re: More on Leo XIV
    « Reply #8 on: May 21, 2025, 07:21:28 PM »
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  • "...Both birth records listed Jean Prevost, born in France, as the father.

    ..."

    Can someone make a Family Tree diagram?  I am confused about the son (s), who was born in France. 
    Was Jean a legitimate baby? ... Catholic wise? Looks like a hellthy trEE ♧ ¿

    Here is the family tree:

    https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Prevost-1162

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    Re: More on Leo XIV
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  • Proof that Leo's grandfather was named  Salvatore Giovanni Riggitano Alioto, and was born in Italy.  He changed his name first to Jean Prevost, and then to John Riggitano Prevost, and later to John Prevost.
    He had to fill out this form, because he had no true identity papers to match his name change.
    Thank you for the posts. Mighty interesting. As they say: You can't make this stuff up!. I am starting a new thread: Suzanne Louisa Marie Prevost. Let me know if there is more to translate.
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    Re: More on Leo XIV
    « Reply #10 on: May 21, 2025, 07:45:53 PM »
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  • Thank you for the posts. Mighty interesting. As they say: You can't make this stuff up!. I am starting a new thread: Suzanne Louisa Marie Prevost. Let me know if there is more to translate.
    Yes indeed!  I'm glad you are interested.
    There is very good docuмentation at this site:

    https://discordgenealogy.com/research-findings/

    It has the original newspaper clippings of the scandal, original docuмents, and much more. 
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    Re: More on Leo XIV
    « Reply #11 on: May 21, 2025, 07:47:44 PM »
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  • Here is the family tree:

    https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Prevost-1162
    Thank you for posting this!  I'm sure it is a help for people to understand more of the discussion.
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    Re: More on Leo XIV
    « Reply #12 on: May 21, 2025, 08:23:27 PM »
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  • On the day of the election, it was being put forth on social media that Leo is Jєωιѕн?  The mother and father, as seen at that time, Jєωιѕн?

    How about it, Incredulous....
    If any one saith that true and natural water is not of necessity for baptism, and on that account wrests to some sort of metaphor those words of Our Lord Jesus Christ, "Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost...,"  Let Him Be Anathama.  -COUNCIL OF TRENT Sess VII Canon II “On Baptism"

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    Re: More on Leo XIV
    « Reply #13 on: May 21, 2025, 08:36:35 PM »
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  • There are so many things to legitimately criticize about Leo himself, why in the world would we focus on the actions of his grandfather?

    No matter what else one might say, surely a person is not responsible for the sins of his grandfather.

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    Re: More on Leo XIV
    « Reply #14 on: May 21, 2025, 09:09:34 PM »
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  • Pope Leo's dad sure sailed the Atlantic many times...
    US citizen, sort of; then hiding in France; Getting married, sort of; Return to the USA, 
    Where's his picture? His passport will surface from the murky waters...
    What is confusing is that a resistance priest mentioned that he was from Canada... Complicating the issue... 


    Short Family tree. 
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