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Author Topic: More Novus Ordo Parish Shutdowns  (Read 16824 times)

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Re: More Novus Ordo Parish Shutdowns
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2026, 12:16:53 PM »
The Novus Ordo Church loves shutting down their own parishes and selling off the properties to non-Catholics. They did that with the parish I belonged to (closed it and sold it to a Fundamentalist Protestant group) but, thankfully, a Traditional Catholic group [The Fraternity of Notre Dame] bought it from the Protestants and now it's "The Shrine of St. Mary of The Assumption".

The Novus Ordo Church couldn't crash and burn soon enough.

They have some kind of psychotic attachment to the idea of being weaker, being smaller, being poorer, and so on.

When Benedict spoke of a smaller Church almost as it was a good thing, I said to myself "like hell it is!" and I say the same thing now.

Re: More Novus Ordo Parish Shutdowns
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2026, 08:46:47 PM »
It’s not necessarily a bad thing. It’s time to start separating the wheat from the chaff. 


Re: More Novus Ordo Parish Shutdowns
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2026, 09:53:09 PM »
It’s not necessarily a bad thing. It’s time to start separating the wheat from the chaff.

But it is better even for the chaff to be in the Church rather than out of it.  Many of us have been "chaff" at one point in our lives or another.  I know I have been.

Everybody should be Catholic and within the one true Church, even if they sin mortally at this point or that during their lives.  Mortal sin, all by itself, does not remove you from the Church.

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Re: More Novus Ordo Parish Shutdowns
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2026, 05:16:16 AM »
The shutting down is called "Restructuring".  You can google it.  Olmsted, dioceses Phoenix, in his 20 years, 2003-2003, restructured 91 parishes.  This restructuring is in all parishes.  It is the cut back of half churches, schools, buildings, clergy.  This is new order/masonry.  These clergy are not priests.  In 2023, Coalition for Cancelled was formed.  These clergy had on billboards that they were sad/ and wanted to be re-instated.  Lies!  They knew what was coming for years.
Snip from an article in the Seattle Catholic by Kenneth C. Jones December 2003 

"...I have no personal stories about what it was like before the Council. But I do have facts. And the facts show that the Church was in the midst of an unprecedented period of growth in the several decades before the Council.

That conclusion is inescapable by looking at the figures in just a few representative areas. And forgive me for throwing a lot of numbers at you, but as a lawyer I feel a statistic-laden brief is necessary to establish my case beyond a reasonable doubt.

Priests: In 1920 there were 21,019 total priests in the United States. In 1930 there were 26,925, in 1940 there were 33,912, in 1945 there were 38,451, in 1950 there were 42,970, in 1955 there were 46,970, in 1960 there were 53,796. This is not the mark of a declining Church, but of a vigorous Church — in 1960 it had a record number of men who were its frontline soldiers, whose ranks had grown 15 percent in the five years between 1955 and 1960.

Seminarians: As one would expect, as the number of priests increased, so did the number of seminarians — and it continued to increase substantially up to the Council. In 1920 there were 8,944 seminarians, in 1930 there were 16,300, in 1940 there were 17,087, in 1945 there were 21,523, in 1950 there were 25,622, in 1955 there were 32,394, in 1960 there were 39,896...."

This one has graphs for a better visual showing the growth up until V2, and the decline since V2. Incredible.

Re: More Novus Ordo Parish Shutdowns
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2026, 01:36:41 PM »
Snip from an article in the Seattle Catholic by Kenneth C. Jones December 2003

"...I have no personal stories about what it was like before the Council. But I do have facts. And the facts show that the Church was in the midst of an unprecedented period of growth in the several decades before the Council.

That conclusion is inescapable by looking at the figures in just a few representative areas. And forgive me for throwing a lot of numbers at you, but as a lawyer I feel a statistic-laden brief is necessary to establish my case beyond a reasonable doubt.




Seminarians: As one would expect, as the number of priests increased, so did the number of seminarians — and it continued to increase substantially up to the Council. In 1920 there were 8,944 seminarians, in 1930 there were 16,300, in 1940 there were 17,087, in 1945 there were 21,523, in 1950 there were 25,622, in 1955 there were 32,394, in 1960 there were 39,896...."

This one has graphs for a better visual showing the growth up until V2, and the decline since V2. Incredible.

It's as I always say, it's kind of like a cake rising in the oven, then someone comes along, slams the oven door, and makes the cake fall.

"An enemy hath done this..."