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More Evidence on the two Sister Lucy's
« on: January 24, 2021, 01:09:27 PM »
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  • The Term "Diabolical Disorientation" Must Be Thrown into the Waste Bin of Refuted Statements of "Sister Lucy." Evidence Clearly Shows that ANY Statement by "Sister Lucy" After 1958 CANNOT Be Accepted as Genuine.

    http://radtradthomist.chojnowski.me/2019/05/the-term-diabolical-disorientation-must.html

    http://radtradthomist.chojnowski.me/2021/01/the-two-lucys-in-hd-what-did-fake.html?utm_


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    Re: More Evidence on the two Sister Lucy's
    « Reply #1 on: January 24, 2021, 04:04:03 PM »
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  • I believe the imposter is supposed to have been installed at the time Sr. Lucy was "transferred" to a different convent. I forget what year that happened, but the evidence points to that being the time the switch was made.
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    That makes sense, because it would be by far the easiest way to switch her out. You can't exactly get a bunch of cloistered nuns to pretend that some new person who showed up in the convent is Sr. Lucy, and not ask questions as to what happened to the real Sr. Lucy. The cleanest way would be to tell the nuns at one convent that Sr. Lucy is leaving, transfer her out, and send the imposter to the new convent. Since the nuns at the new convent don't know Sr. Lucy personally, they would have no way to know the new nun who showed up is not her.
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    As far as what happens to the real Sr. Lucy, once she is out of the convent, she can be "disposed of", to borrow a term from mafia movies.
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    That is similar to what happened to Bp. Thuc. A group of modernist monks told them they were going to take him to see some people, I forget who, and once they got him in the car they headed straight back to their monastery and held him incommunicado until his death, which (by a strange, aherm, coincidence), was only a few months later.
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    The ramifications of this are interesting, too, in that it would mean that the famous Fr. Fuentes interview was with the imposter. That was when Sr. Lucy supposed made prophecies about the future of the United States and also of Russia.


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    Re: More Evidence on the two Sister Lucy's
    « Reply #2 on: January 24, 2021, 07:12:02 PM »
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  • I believe the imposter is supposed to have been installed at the time Sr. Lucy was "transferred" to a different convent. I forget what year that happened, but the evidence points to that being the time the switch was made.
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    That makes sense, because it would be by far the easiest way to switch her out. You can't exactly get a bunch of cloistered nuns to pretend that some new person who showed up in the convent is Sr. Lucy, and not ask questions as to what happened to the real Sr. Lucy. The cleanest way would be to tell the nuns at one convent that Sr. Lucy is leaving, transfer her out, and send the imposter to the new convent. Since the nuns at the new convent don't know Sr. Lucy personally, they would have no way to know the new nun who showed up is not her.
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    The ramifications of this are interesting, too, in that it would mean that the famous Fr. Fuentes interview was with the imposter. That was when Sr. Lucy supposed made prophecies about the future of the United States and also of Russia.
    Good post, but, depending on what you mean by your last sentence, the real Sr. Lucy met with Wm. Thomas Walsh in the 1940s, and she told him about the whole world being communist, including the USA, in that interview.  That interview was ~1946, and she was supposed to have joined the Carmelites a few years later.  

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    Re: More Evidence on the two Sister Lucy's
    « Reply #3 on: January 24, 2021, 07:19:22 PM »
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  • Good post, but, depending on what you mean by your last sentence, the real Sr. Lucy met with Wm. Thomas Walsh in the 1940s, and she told him about the whole world being communist, including the USA, in that interview.  That interview was ~1946, and she was supposed to have joined the Carmelites a few years later.  
    Sister Lucia of Fatima in 1946 said that the whole world would become communist
     
    While he was the pastor of Our Lady of Fatima Church in Ludlow, Massachusetts, I spent some time with Fr. Manuel Rocha, the interpreter selected for Mr. William Thomas Walsh, who wrote perhaps the most popular book on Fatima. Fr. Rocha told me that one of the questions Mr. Walsh asked him to translate to Sister Lucia during a three hour interview on the afternoon of July 15, 1946, while she was still Sister Maria das Dores, a Dorothean Sister at Vilar near Porto, Portugal, was asked; In your opinion, will every country, without exception, be overcome by communism? Her pale brown eyes staring into his, a little dimple on each cheek, she answered, Yes. Fr. Rocha related to me that Mr. Walsh wanted to be positive about the answer and therefore repeated the question adding, And does that mean the United States of America too?  Sister Lucia answered, Yes.
    The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24

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    Re: More Evidence on the two Sister Lucy's
    « Reply #4 on: January 24, 2021, 07:24:25 PM »
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  • Good post, but, depending on what you mean by your last sentence, the real Sr. Lucy met with Wm. Thomas Walsh in the 1940s, and she told him about the whole world being communist, including the USA, in that interview.  That interview was ~1946, and she was supposed to have joined the Carmelites a few years later.  
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    Thank you for clarifying that. That is very interesting. I'll have to dig up again what I read and maybe post it. It's been a while and the details are not clear in my memory.


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    Re: More Evidence on the two Sister Lucy's
    « Reply #5 on: January 25, 2021, 08:54:30 AM »
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  • Okay, I found that article. It argues that Sr. Lucy was switched in or before 1948, when she supposedly transferred to the Carmelite order.

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    Re: More Evidence on the two Sister Lucy's
    « Reply #6 on: January 25, 2021, 04:34:25 PM »
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  • Okay, I found that article. It argues that Sr. Lucy was switched in or before 1948, when she supposedly transferred to the Carmelite order.
    If Sister Lucy was replaced in 1948, the Fr Fuentes interview from 1957 would have to be a fɾαυd- that's a hard one. I think they took her out after that interview.

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    Re: More Evidence on the two Sister Lucy's
    « Reply #7 on: January 25, 2021, 05:04:48 PM »
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  • I remember 1960 attending parochial school waiting for the release of the third secret and it was never released. Still waiting
    after 61 years.  I read some where that a daughter of a mason claimed that Sister Lucy was murdered and it was arranged by
    the Vatican.


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    Re: More Evidence on the two Sister Lucy's
    « Reply #9 on: January 26, 2021, 07:22:15 PM »
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  • This subject was covered extensively in 2014.  
    https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/sister-lucy-attended-the-novus-ordo-mass-for-decades/60/

    In that thread I posted the page from the convent records (which has been removed from the net) that shows sister Lucy died on May 31, 1949.  It also gives her birth date, date she professed her vows etc

    Notice that she is listed with others in the year 2005.  Did someone really want the truth known?
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    Here is the page from the convent records   See entry # 265  Just click on it to enlarge.

    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]


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    Re: More Evidence on the two Sister Lucy's
    « Reply #10 on: January 26, 2021, 08:39:11 PM »
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  • Wow, what an amazing post! Thank you!!
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    Is this image available on the Wayback Machine or some other web archiver? I would really love to see it live online. I believe it is real, but if I wanted to show it to someone else, I need to show it in an objective medium.
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    What is interesting is that the fake Sister Lucy died in 2005. So, this entry is listed among nuns who died in 2004-5, when Sr. Lucy supposedly died, except that her death is placed in the late 1940s. Very strange. It does look like someone is trying to leak some information.
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    I wonder if it would be possible to check newspaper articles from May of 1949 in Coimbra to see if they mention her death, or even coroner's records from the same time. There must be some docuмentation of this out there if it's true. It's hard to see how Sr. Lucy could have died in the 40s and there not be any record of it somewhere. This would have been long before any attempt to silence the apparitions of Fatima.


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    Re: More Evidence on the two Sister Lucy's
    « Reply #11 on: January 26, 2021, 08:40:03 PM »
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  • If Sister Lucy was replaced in 1948, the Fr Fuentes interview from 1957 would have to be a fɾαυd- that's a hard one. I think they took her out after that interview.
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    The same author addresses that question here. She believes the imposter gave the interview.

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    Re: More Evidence on the two Sister Lucy's
    « Reply #12 on: January 26, 2021, 09:16:50 PM »
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  • I've never found it on line since but you could always write to the address at the bottom of the docuмent or they also give their phone number.

    There won't be any records of her death in any newspaper as she was supposed to have been transferred remember?
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]


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    Re: More Evidence on the two Sister Lucy's
    « Reply #13 on: January 26, 2021, 09:43:04 PM »
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  • I've never found it on line since but you could always write to the address at the bottom of the docuмent or they also give their phone number.
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    I highly doubt the Carmelites would provide any information on something they scrubbed from their own website.
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    There won't be any records of her death in any newspaper as she was supposed to have been transferred remember?

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    Maybe I have the wrong place name, but what I mean is, whatever location she was in in 1949, I would check government death records and newspapers for 1949 to see if there is any mention of her passing away that year. There must be something.

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    Re: More Evidence on the two Sister Lucy's
    « Reply #14 on: January 27, 2021, 12:51:11 AM »
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  • As we get closer to the Truth. The idea that Sister Lucy of Fatima died in 1949 on account of "death announcement" by the Carmelites, is clearly false. The notice says that "Maria Lucia of the Immaculate Heart" was Professed on October 3, 1928. The real Sister Lucy was CERTAINLY not professed in the Carmelites then, but 20 years later. Whoever the nun was who died in 1949, it wasn't SISTER LUCY, SEER OF FATIMA. That was easy. And No Fees!







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