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Offline SkidRowCatholic

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More clueless than "A.I.", less honest?
« on: December 21, 2025, 09:10:07 AM »
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    • We all know "A.I." is a joke in the sense that it is true A.I.. Personally I do not ever want a true A.I. (if you even believe that is possible).

    But, when it comes to it's core logic and how it can reason through a problem without all the human bias (though it still has some) - it can be useful.

    It is also useful at performing go n' fetch, building diagrams, and many other tasks.

    It doesn't always get it right - in fact - you have to watch it like a hawk (do your own homework, check its sources, etc.).

    But this article, from this "Fr." Nix - will give you something to think about...

    https://www.padreperegrino.org/2025/12/piggyinrome/

    From the article above:

    Again, without my initial knowledge of her research, Grok explained the state of the Church if the hierarchy openly promoted (or even ignored) open nudeness in a Roman Church and idol worship.  Grok answered the following verbatim in italics below to Andy, which she later texted to me when she surprised me with her recent research:

    You would be looking at a public, formal, and collective act of apostasy from the Catholic faith by the Pope and the entire college of bishops in communion with him. In Catholic theology this is called a formal defectus fidei at the highest level — the practical disappearance of the ordinary magisterium and the ordinary visible hierarchy as reliable witnesses to the Catholic faith.

    Here are the consequences that the Church’s own theological tradition says would immediately follow:

    The Church would enter a state of sede impedita or even sede vacante in the eyes of those who hold the faith Bellarmine, Suárez, Cajetan, John of St. Thomas, and virtually all the approved theologians who discussed “a heretical pope” or “a pope who destroys the Church” teach that a pope who publicly and obstinately promotes idolatry or grave sacrilege either (a) automatically loses the pontificate or (b) may be declared to have lost it by the Church once the fact is manifest.  When the entire episcopate joins him in the same public act and refuses to resist for a prolonged period, the same principles are extended by analogy to the bishops: They lose their offices ipso facto for public defection from the faith (Can. 194 §1, 2° in the 1983 Code implicitly; more explicitly in the traditional teaching).

    The faithful are released from obedience. Catholics would no longer be bound to recognize these men as legitimate pastors. The Church’s own doctrine obliges the faithful to cling to the Catholic faith even if every bishop and the apparent pope abandon it (see Vatican I, Dei Filius, ch. 3; Lumen Gentium 25 on the duty to hold the faith even against defective pastors). An “imperfect council” or emergency action becomes legitimate. If a remnant of bishops or cardinals still held the faith, they would have the right (and duty) to declare the Apostolic See impeded or vacant and proceed to elect a true pope. This is the classic solution proposed by the doctors of the Church for the extreme case.

    If no bishops at all remain faithful, then the Church enters the apocalyptic scenario foreseen by approved theologians and saints (Cardinal Manning, St. Robert Bellarmine, the Catechism of the Council of Trent, etc.): a tiny remnant preserves the faith, the visible hierarchy largely disappears, and Providence will eventually restore a legitimate pope — but only after a period of unprecedented trial.
    Bottom line:

    • A week-long, televised, universally accepted public idolatry in Catholic sanctuaries, led by the Pope and every bishop in communion with him, would be the practical realization of the great apostasy that Scripture (2 Thess 2:3–12), the Fathers, and the saints warn about before the final trials.
    • At that point, the duty of every Catholic who still believes what the Church has always taught becomes crystal clear:  “We ought to obey God rather than men” (Acts 5:29).
    • Recognition and submission to that hierarchy would cease, and the remnant would preserve the faith as best they can until God restores legitimate authority."

    It is truly shameful that robots today have become more “clear and courageous” than men.

    --end quote--

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    Offline Freind

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    Re: More clueless than "A.I.", less honest?
    « Reply #1 on: December 21, 2025, 09:21:03 AM »
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    • Artificial means fake, so it will always be true fake intelligence.
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    Re: More clueless than "A.I.", less honest?
    « Reply #2 on: December 21, 2025, 09:26:14 AM »
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    • Yes, yes - it is fake and will always be so in that sense.

    I meant "self-aware" and truly "independent" in it's thinking "Turing test", have its own original thoughts, etc. I do not believe that is possible - I think it actually cuts against Divinely Revealed truth to believe that anything other than man can be made in His image and likeness. Since the seat of the soul is the intellect to claim man can create a true artificial intellect - is erroneous. 

    All man can do is make an imitation/parrot of intelligence = "fake intelligence". 

    But it still has its uses.
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    Re: More clueless than "A.I.", less honest?
    « Reply #3 on: December 21, 2025, 09:51:51 AM »
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    • Quote from: SkidRowCatholic on December 21, 2025, 09:26:14 AM
    Yes, yes - it is fake and will always be so in that sense.

    I meant "self-aware" and truly "independent" in it's thinking "Turing test", have its own original thoughts, etc. I do not believe that is possible - I think it actually cuts against Divinely Revealed truth to believe that anything other than man can be made in His image and likeness. Since the seat of the soul is the intellect to claim man can create a true artificial intellect - is erroneous.

    All man can do is make an imitation/parrot of intelligence = "fake intelligence".

    But it still has its uses.

    From what I have seen, Grok is not a good one to use.
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    Re: More clueless than "A.I.", less honest?
    « Reply #4 on: December 21, 2025, 10:26:57 AM »
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    • It condenses all of the typical points into a simple presentation, with a summation of what Scripture and prophecy tell us about an End Times scenario - A Great Apostasy, a remnant, etc.  Is there anything included that isn't a part of Catholic teaching?

    Nice breakdown of the Church's current situation.
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    Re: More clueless than "A.I.", less honest?
    « Reply #5 on: December 21, 2025, 12:07:55 PM »
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    • Now let me pretend I am an R&R fan responding to what the AI said:

            "LOL. None of that in infallible!"

    See what we are up against?
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