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s2srea · « **Reply #30 on:** June 05, 2011, 07:47:07 PM »

Quote from: roscoe

'.... He's a Pope!... He's not a Pope!... who the heck cares?'

Are U kidding us??

No I'm not kidding. Read it in context... If you don't get the message, let me know and I will clarify for you.

s2srea · « **Reply #31 on:** June 05, 2011, 07:53:51 PM »

Spiritus... as my response to Roscoe indicated, I wasn't trying to say I don't care who is pope and who isn't. Actually, after reading much of what you write, I find us on the same page on the majority of issues- I don't know if you've caught this. My point was was that its pointless to endlessly debate the subject and that it gets old when there are some who tirelessly try to point out the faults of those popes who have done wrong and find details about them, that in my opinion, do not add any context. Would finding out if Paul VI was a sodomite change his office of pope? C'mon now....

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #32 on:** June 05, 2011, 08:24:46 PM »

Yes, I'm aware that you and I seem to agree on many topics. My point was mainly finding out if he was a Freemason, and there appears to be strong evidence out there that he was. A Freemason cannot be Pope. Now, like you I don't like to get caught up in the whole "Pope or anti-pope" debate, but Paul VI's Papacy is one that is subject to much controversy.

roscoe · « **Reply #33 on:** June 05, 2011, 09:54:14 PM »

Quote from: s2srea

Spiritus... as my response to Roscoe indicated, I wasn't trying to say I don't care who is pope and who isn't. Actually, after reading much of what you write, I find us on the same page on the majority of issues- I don't know if you've caught this. My point was was that its pointless to endlessly debate the subject and that it gets old when there are some who tirelessly try to point out the faults of those popes who have done wrong and find details about them, that in my opinion, do not add any context. Would finding out if Paul VI was a sodomite change his office of pope? C'mon now....

I believe it is being alleged that there can be such a blasphemy as a sodomite pope.

s2srea · « **Reply #34 on:** June 06, 2011, 07:55:45 AM »

Quote from: roscoe

Quote from: s2srea
Spiritus... as my response to Roscoe indicated, I wasn't trying to say I don't care who is pope and who isn't. Actually, after reading much of what you write, I find us on the same page on the majority of issues- I don't know if you've caught this. My point was was that its pointless to endlessly debate the subject and that it gets old when there are some who tirelessly try to point out the faults of those popes who have done wrong and find details about them, that in my opinion, do not add any context. Would finding out if Paul VI was a sodomite change his office of pope? C'mon now....

I believe it is being alleged that there can be such a blasphemy as a sodomite pope.

Roscoe- what does that profit you at this point? The man is dead. God has made judgment on him. What do you gain from trying to figure it out?

roscoe · « **Reply #35 on:** June 06, 2011, 12:19:39 PM »

Unless I am mistaken, it is being alleged that there can be such a thing as True Pope who is a sodomite-- Blasphemous.

s2srea · « **Reply #36 on:** June 06, 2011, 02:20:41 PM »

Quote from: roscoe

Unless I am mistaken, it is being alleged that there can be such a thing as True Pope who is a sodomite-- Blasphemous.

Actually, unless I[/i] am mistaken, where is it written the pope would be free from sin, including the prideful sin of sodomy? Do you think there are no popes in the history of our church who have sinned? Roscoe- you make your pope a God. As I've said before, one of the prerequisites for election of someone to the papacy is that they must be human, and as humans, we all sin. What would actually be blasphemous would be someone who elevated the papacy to equality with Christ himself. Please, let us not justify the protestants thoughts on how we view the pope.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #37 on:** June 06, 2011, 02:22:35 PM »

If a true pope can be a fornicator, which has happened, so can a true pope be a sodomite. A true pope CAN be the greatest private sinner upon the entire planet, perhaps in all of history. The one has nothing, in se, to do with the other.

s2srea · « **Reply #38 on:** June 06, 2011, 02:46:37 PM »

Thank you for the clarification GV

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #39 on:** June 06, 2011, 04:57:35 PM »

Roscoe is a dogmatic sedevacantist. What's so funny is that he doesn't even think there's such thing as a sedevacantist! One of many reasons I have him on ignore.

roscoe · « **Reply #40 on:** June 06, 2011, 05:25:02 PM »

It is blasphemy to assert that a True Pope can be a sodomite.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #41 on:** June 06, 2011, 06:04:16 PM »

Perhaps the idea is blasphemous according to the Gospel of roscoe, but, in the real world, anything is possible. Sodomy, even were it public knowledge, is not something that makes a man lose his membership in Holy Church, nor any office he might hold therein.

Look, mate, while doing what sodomites do is revolting, it does not make one incapable of holding an ecclesiastical office. You are talking nonsense, amigo. Let it go :)

roscoe · « **Reply #42 on:** June 06, 2011, 06:31:18 PM »

Acc to Pope Paul IV, if a Pope were discovered to be a heretic, he would lose his office. Sodomy is heretical-- add it up.

s2srea · « **Reply #43 on:** June 06, 2011, 06:47:37 PM »

Quote from: roscoe

Acc to Pope Paul IV, if a Pope were discovered to be a heretic, he would lose his office. Sodomy is heretical-- add it up.

Roscoe, I'm sorry but your definition of sodomy being 'heretical' is wrong. How old are you?

roscoe · « **Reply #44 on:** June 06, 2011, 07:11:14 PM »

Blasphemer