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Got your attention?  No, this is not Harvey Winkelberg the accountant dressed as Superman.  This is the man they called "Pope Paul VI...

Again I will scream:  THESE ARE NOT POPES OR THE CHURCH HAS FAILED.

Heh!  Just look at the nose!  Is that a Catholic nose?  Can a Jew be pope?

psycho ward

Please tell me you're joking.

Is this for real? I am a strict sedevacantist. But Paul VI a Jew? He may have been the destroyer of the Mass he may have been a sodomite he may have destroyed Papal respectibility he may have been a Freemason but a jew?

Someones been into the funny grass. :smoke-pot:

Though I have developed a more mature approach since starting this thread, and it's embarrassing to me to see how crazed I used to be, saying Montini is a Jew is apparently proven.  Father Saenz y Arriaga and others state flat-out he had Jєωιѕн ancestry.  Famously, he wore the Jєωιѕн breastplate, the ephod.  

Even if there were no direct proof, it would not be wrong to suspect him of being a Jew, because his actions lead directly to that suspicion.  Suspicion is only wrong if there isn't sufficient basis for it.  Some people adopt the pseudo-pious position that this means we must have proof, preferably a video or a photograph or whatever.  But if we had that, it wouldn't be "suspicion" anymore, would it?  Suspecting someone of being a Jew because they have a big nose and are cheap would be wrong, but it is not wrong to suspect the "Pope" who convoked an anti-Catholic and Judaizing Council, who wore an ephod, and who spurned almost every element of the papacy -- going so far as to be buried in a plain wooden coffin -- of being a Jew.  

However, that is all moot since apparently it is proven that Montini's mother is a Jew.  That makes him a Jew.  Period.

I couldn't care any less than I already do what Vandeler and Stevus think at this point. They don't care what the truth is.

It's Vandaler, not Vandeler.
In this case, you're quite right, I don't care.

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I couldn't care any less than I already do what Vandeler and Stevus think at this point. They don't care what the truth is.

It's Vandaler, not Vandeler.
In this case, you're quite right, I don't care.

And that's why you have a reputation of zero.

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And that's why you have a reputation of zero.

My reputation HERE is zero, because I am against the grain.

I'd love to see your reputation in the wild, where the real world live, and not in this comfortable nest of conformity where your ideas are received favorably.

That's rather subjective, your "comfortable nest of conformity" is in fact the world in which you live and the spirit of which you appear to imbide, your accuracy regarding secular events notwithstanding.

That's rather subjective, your "comfortable nest of conformity" is in fact the world in which you live and the spirit of which you appear to imbide, your accuracy regarding secular events notwithstanding.

Sure, and it's valid for everyone. Drawing conclusions from a reputation rating on an opinionated board is really not much of a conclusion.  It only measures someones popularity.  Few have the discipline or the inclinations to rate favorably a well reasoned and written post if it don't agree with their core values.

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That's rather subjective, your "comfortable nest of conformity" is in fact the world in which you live and the spirit of which you appear to imbide, your accuracy regarding secular events notwithstanding.

Sure, and it's valid for everyone. Drawing conclusions from a reputation rating on an opinionated board is really not much of a conclusion.  It only measures someones popularity.  Few have the discipline or the inclinations to rate favorably a well reasoned and written post if it don't agree with their core values.

I agree.  But the core values of a Catholic necessarily creates enmity with the world and its spirit.  The manifestation of this enmity comes about in various forms and that which you relentlessly attack is but a secondary, accidental feature that relates to concrete historical events.  The question is whether you possess the same spirit which is at odds with the spirit of the world, that place which you seem to imply is your very own comfortable nest of conformity.  The reason why people here question your sincerity is because it appears as though there seems to be no real conflict with your "core values" as a Catholic and the world.  Even supposing you are correct in controversies relating to secular events, it is the manner in which you approach them evinces a certain worldly mind.  I appreciate a critical attitude regarding claims, but the irony is that you don't seem to hold out the same critical spirit regarding the neo-pagan world, its institutions and claims or the religion of scientism to which it adheres so faithfully.  A Catholic who fails to understand the true state of the world and church today, at least in a general way, which necessarily results in mourning, grief and disgust, who does not find himself in a constant struggle against the spirit of the world, the flesh and the devil, is one who manifestly does not possess the Spirit of Christ.  So when we see one who apparently sits which such comfort and ease among the Kingdom of Satan, even to the extent of mocking a fellow Catholic, the question becomes to which Kindgom do you really belong?