Author Topic: Modernists hatred of the Scapular and the Rosary (Read 2613 times)

TKGS · « **Reply #5 on:** July 07, 2016, 08:56:44 PM »

Modernists don't believe in miracles, period. They don't believe in the apparitions to St. Simon or to St. Dominic just as they don't believe in the miracles of our Lord. I'm sure everyone has heard the Modernist explanation of the multiplication of loaves and fishes. I don't know why anyone would think they would think there would be any supernatural advantages of the scapular or the rosary.

Matto · « **Reply #6 on:** July 07, 2016, 09:00:00 PM »

Quote from: TKGS

Modernists don't believe in miracles, period.

I think you are being a little too general. There are all sorts of modernists. Some believe in miracles and some do not. I would consider the conservative Novus Ordo faithful to be modernists but most of them do believe in miracles and some of them even pray the Rosary and wear the Scapular. Of course the worst modernists don't, but some do. There are many in the Novus Ordo who get upset when the priests deny the miracles of Christ, most commonly the multiplication of loaves and fishes, but they are mostly modernists also even though they might not know it.

TKGS · « **Reply #7 on:** July 08, 2016, 05:24:59 AM »

Quote from: Matto

Quote from: TKGS
Modernists don't believe in miracles, period.

I think you are being a little too general. There are all sorts of modernists. Some believe in miracles and some do not. I would consider the conservative Novus Ordo faithful to be modernists but most of them do believe in miracles and some of them even pray the Rosary and wear the Scapular. Of course the worst modernists don't, but some do. There are many in the Novus Ordo who get upset when the priests deny the miracles of Christ, most commonly the multiplication of loaves and fishes, but they are mostly modernists also even though they might not know it.

In that case, this entire topic is too general. Why point out the exception rather than the rule unless your purpose is to obfuscate?

songbird · « **Reply #8 on:** July 09, 2016, 05:32:00 PM »

I have a view, that modernists take a look at scapulars, rosary as superstitious, maybe. Or embarassed to be seen saying the rosary.

Very sad! They will be embarassed when they die and are judged by the God.

MMagdala · « **Reply #9 on:** July 09, 2016, 10:19:32 PM »

Key word = Modernist.

If it's un-modern (pre-modern), it's suspect. Thus, "conservative" Catholics (lovers of all things JP2 but little or nothing before 1978) are often quite devoted to the Divine Mercy Chaplet (a repetitive devotion) and will substitute that for the rosary, as if the former is equivalent or even "better." Recently, someone prominent in our trad parish was quite ill and needed prayers. The prayer tree specified "Masses," "Rosaries," etc. Along came a N.O. Mass attendee and asked specifically to substitute a D.M. chaplet for the latter, even though the prayer cards had already been written out. Modern substitutions are something of a cult for many of these people. Generally, they fall into 2 categories: no sacramentals and devotions at all, or only modern ones and modern "Saints."

That's just my experience, but one I have consistently encountered.