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Offline Stubborn

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Re: Minor Chastisement or End Times?
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2021, 03:14:31 PM »
It depends upon what you call, “end times.”  We are certainly in the birth pangs, and expect them to increase in strength and frequency.  Is this “the” chastisement?  I think it’s the beginning of it.
As for what priests say, I don’t have “a priest” right now, but am in contact with a few of them.  One pretty much agrees with me.  Another says the vaxx is the mark of the beast and Francis is the false prophet.  Yet another thinks this is just another dry run, and, “We ain’t seen nothin’ yet.”  
I am squarely in this camp, the bolded, definitely.

Re: Minor Chastisement or End Times?
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2021, 03:40:28 PM »
I believe I've heard Bp. Williamson refer to this as a "dress rehearsal for the end times."  I agree.  Which I think puts it in the category of "Minor Chastisement" if I understand correctly.  Also agree with “We ain’t seen nothin’ yet.”


Re: Minor Chastisement or End Times?
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2021, 05:40:06 PM »
Noah's flood was not the end of the world, yet almost everyone was killed.
 I think we are going into a major chastisement, unlike the world has ever experienced. Hopefully what is at the end of this for those who will be here to witness it, is the consecration of Russia and the reign of the Immaculate Heart.

Offline Mark 79

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Re: Minor Chastisement or End Times?
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2021, 06:49:43 PM »
I'm hearing about s lot of Israeli Jews getting baptized at the moment , there's been a huge conversion movement .


Any references for that claim?

“We ain’t seen nothin’ yet.”  
Agreed. Our situation is approaching biblical proportions, but not quite there… yet.

Re: Minor Chastisement or End Times?
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2021, 06:47:01 AM »
Minor Chastisement or End Times?
What say you?  What say your priests?

I say that the Novus Ordo is the abomination of desolation, and most of the last days are already over.


There are two major strands of interpretation of the End Times. The first and earlier one expects a worldly leader who first uses seduction, and later violence and torture to gain souls for hell.

The second, and since the time of Sts. Jerome and Augustine predominant one, centers around the Church, not the world. Those outside the Church are prey of the devil, already. In the last days, the tares within the Church will become visible as such. "Antichrist and his body" will "sit not in but as the Church". Already in the time of St. John the Evangelist, antichrists "went out from us".

Quote from: 1 Jn 2:19, Knox Translation
19 They came of our company, but they never belonged to our company; if they had belonged to it, they would have persevered at our side. As it is, they were destined to prove that there are some who are no true companions of ours.

These "no true companions of ours" are called "mystery of iniquity" by the Apostle Paul, which has been "working" in the Church all the time. It refers "to the wicked and the hypocrites who are in the Church, until they reach a number so great as to furnish Antichrist with a great people". The revelation of this subterranean fifth column is the revelation of Antichrist. The tares take over the Church, transforming her into the Great Harlot Babylon ("I wondered, for I had seen the woman, with great admiration.") At the same time, the true Church, "they that are in Judea", "flee to the mountains", listening to the "voice from heaven: Go out from her, my people; that you be not partakers of her sins, and that you receive not of her plagues."

Quote from: Rev 16:19-20
And the great city was divided into three parts; and the cities of the Gentiles fell. And great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give her the cup of the wine of the indignation of his wrath. And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.

This great city is "all people entirely", "everyone who is under heaven". The first part (cities of the Gentiles) are those outside the Church, the second part (great Babylon) the hypocrites who so far had been in the Church, the third part (islands and mountains) are those not only called but also elected, now fleeing from the Harlot.

I believe that we've got most of the time of the final tribulation behind us. What seems to be the Church (in the eyes of the world), isn't the real thing.


Come, Lord Jesus.