I'm going to stick my oar in here.  I was married to one like you, Thorn.  Four NO priests told me to get out.  Finally the Sheriff refused to let me go back in the house, gave me some money and told me to get as far from him as I could.  He said he didn't want to clean up what was left of me.  

He's dead now and I wonder if I could have helped him like St. Monica did her husband.  I pray for his soul and will see about having masses said for him.  His death really shook me.

Any trad priest would have told you likewise.  No, you can't help those kind of people except from afar.  At first I did think he'd burn in Hell, but then that would be one less soul to sing glory to God in Heaven so I do pray for him whenever I think of him.  These people are put in our path for a reason.  You have to feel sorry for them as they're so miserable and actually they're sick.  Mine is still living so God must be giving him time.

If you showed him a happy, calm, Christ-like spirit, then you did your job.  You showed him the way, the ball was in his court.  You can't force people any more than Christ would.  These people are sick.  Once you realize that, you can forgive and even pray for him and move on.  It's humbling, I know, to find that YOU can't make people better.  (then you'd be prideful and that would be a bad thing) The best thing to do is let go and let God.  All is in His hands.  Aren't you glad?  Rejoice!!

(I apologize to the others for sidetracking this thread.) I shall return to under my rock where I've been lurking.  

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Only problem is that libs will NOT shut up and endure. They will raise Hell. Catholics should have done this in 1965, but they trusted the priest/ wolves were doing the Pope's bidding.

They were.  All the infiltrators knew that the Vatican II Council was a signal to start attacking the Church and dismantling it from within.  Paul VI opened the floodgates, like a vampire pack leader giving secret signals to his undead flock.

 You don't think Paul "The U.N. is the last best hope for mankind" VI knew that endless  variations of the Novus Ordo Mass were being enforced everywhere and shoved down the throats of the unwilling?  You don't think he knew about the wreckovations?  So everyone knew except the "Pope"?  Speaking of wreckovations, there were very visible ones happening in the reign of Pius XII, who did nothing, such as the infamies of Le Corbusier in France.

Sainte-Marie de la Tourette('s Syndrome ) --

Let's say, just for the sake of argument, that Paul VI was somehow in the dark about liturgical abuse.  Not even by gouging your own eyes out could you say the same for Benedict, yet SSPX-ers persist in trying to act as if he is half-traditional.  Has it not struck you that we live in the information age when anyone can turn on the computer and instantly find out what everyone is doing and yet Benedict continues to fail to reprimand priests who perform sacrilegious "masses," "masses" which, moreover, have been filmed for posterity?  Do you think Benedict doesn't have a computer, or has no information about the plethora of liturgical abuses out there that trads have been talking about for decades?  Do you think he is unaware that the seminaries are pedophile havens?  HE DOES NOTHING.  Don't you get it?

 Look, go ahead and say you believe the Popes haven't crossed the bounds of infallibility with their errors and heresies, but please don't act as if these "Popes" are orthodox.  It makes me fear for your sanity.  Even if I were not sedevacantist and in the Vatican II Church, I would not go into denial like the AngelQueeners and pretend like Benedict, a heretic who gleefully spoke of Vatican II being "1789 in the Church," is going to fix anything.

Your posts make me want to grab you by the shoulders and shake you violently.  If there is such a thing as being too innocent, it is you.

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My one wish is that the tables are turned completely one day and the measure they measured out is used on them.

1.) Orders from "the Pope" that we go back to the way everything was before the "changes".

2.) Disgruntled complaining libs told to obey because this is what the Holy Father wants.

3.) Priests growing "very tired" of complaining libs.

And I wish I could fly through the air like a bird by flapping my arms.  What do wishes have to do with it?  

Let's say the "Pope" -- glad you put that in quotes -- did turn back the clock and reinforced the Tridentine Rite.  What about the errors of the "Magisterium," though?  Are you saying you want the indefectible Catholic Church to admit that for half a century it has led everyone astray on matters of faith and morals?

The thing about you SSPX types is that every time they throw you a bone, some little sop to tradition, you act like a starving dog grateful to see a crumb.  You ignore that the one giving you the crumb is the same one who locked you in a dungeon and starved you in the first place.  You lick his hand with pitiful gratitude.  I'm telling you, you have a spiritual form of Stockholm Syndrome.  Stop accepting half-truths and demand the FULL faith.  It will take more than the Tridentine Rite to bring that back.

See, they have gutted the Church, they have made missionary work almost impossible, and those that do convert get so many mixed messages about what a Catholic is that the majority of them are unrecognizable as brothers and sisters in the faith.  There's no way to "turn back the clock" when it comes to what is going on in Rome.  That clock must be smashed into pieces.

Raoul, I think you mis-understood stevusmagnus. He and I used to post on CAF (we were among the very few Traditional Catholics there) and after reading his posts I can safely say he does demand the full truth, and so do I. The only thing is, the Vatican isn't going to give it to us any time soon, so we have to look up the truth ourselves.

We "SSPX people" are very aware of what is wrong with the modern-day teachings of the Church. We know the TLM alone won't restore things, especially when they're only bringing it back so they can mix it with the Novus Ordo. After the TLM was rare for so many years though, we're simply glad to see it no longer such a rare sight. We aren't finished fighting though. Modernism is still alive and well in the Church. It's a fight that won't end until the three days of darnkess, and one that will start all over again when the anti-Christ comes. Believe me, we still aren't content with how things are going.

Here it is Alexandria!

I have to give my mother, who is much older than I  :roll-laugh1:, her lunch now.

Curious, why are you so interested in my journey?

Just asking!  Please don't take offense!

I will be happy to tell more, but a little later.  

Well Alexandria, yesterday when I attended the funeral, father spoke so many beautiful words about Dolores.   I left there with my adult daughter, and she mentioned to me half kidding, “Mom, you better write out your story and how you came to tradition, so when you pass away father will know a little about your journey”.  This is uncanny that you also prompt me to write…….. hmmmm!     Lol!

My note prior to this one was my awakening from a long slumber, if you know what I mean.  Now that I woke up I started to see many other strange happenings.  A good example would be when our pastor had a missionary priest come to talk to us;  I can still remember exactly what he said, “Now that you here is the parish have seen many changes, this is another you will soon hear about,  Jesus Christ was not Divine”…. I kid you not this is what he said.  I actual wiggled in my pew.  After Mass many people walked up to the priest and argued with him about that.  I just bowed my head in disgust and went home.  Every week I would come home from Church and complain to my un-catholic husband.

One day while cleaning out our closet I found my rosary and scapular in an old shoe box, all tangled up, I remember taking it out and thinking, what is wrong with me, I am suppose to wear and pray these  beads, so I put the scapular on, and began praying the rosary, not for myself, but for my children.

My home always had pictures of the Saints, statues, and candles, I had a large picture of the Sacred Heart right in the middle of my living room, and it was there for years and years.  One day I found the promises of the Sacred Heart and began to cry to God.  Why haven’t you kept your promise to me, here I have been hanging this picture for years and where is my fervor for the faith, etc. etc. Look at my children, I am raising 6 world lings, I cried.  I discovered Tan books and began to read and read, my husband asked me one day, are you having a nervous breakdown or what?  No, I just want to know what is going on with my Church.  

In those days, I didn’t have a computer, never heard one word about SSPX or Bishop L.  or SV or any traditional movement or chapel anywhere, never heard anything about those things, all I knew was novus ordo.
 
Well to make a long story short, one day my un-catholic husband brought to me an article he clipped out of the newspaper and said, I think you should go to this lecture.  I took the article in hand, and it said, “Come and hear from a Catholic priest, what is going on in your Church”!

This is the strange part, never in my life have I had anything supernatural happen to me PRIOR TO THIS, but when I read that it was as if my guardian angel yelled at me and said, YES GO!

So I took my 19 year old daughter and I, went to hear Father Denis speak, and it was as if I had all the pieces of the puzzle but couldn’t put it together, and after the talk, the puzzle came together for me.