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Offline Ladislaus

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MHFM on "Fiducia Supplicans"
« on: January 07, 2024, 05:37:14 PM »
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    Re: MHFM on "Fiducia Supplicans"
    « Reply #1 on: January 07, 2024, 05:48:56 PM »
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  • What Jorge is doing with moral theology is the same thing that his predecessors had already done with dogmatic theology.

    Jorge focuses on the "good things" WITHIN a sodomite relationship.  So, for instance, there might be some mutual affection, kindness, sacrifice, etc.  Jorge believes that these positive aspects can be blessed in isolation from the evil aspects.

    Similarly, with false religions, V2 emphasized that there is some truth and goodness in these religions, e.g. they might believe in one God, some that Jesus is God, etc.

    This is the foundation of all these errors.

    But, as we know beginning with St. Augustine, evil is nothing more than a privation of good, and pure evil does not exist, meaning that EVERYTHING that exists has some good in it ... even Satan and the demons.  This ontological presence of some good within something does not mean that the thing is good as a whole.


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    Re: MHFM on "Fiducia Supplicans"
    « Reply #2 on: January 07, 2024, 05:50:09 PM »
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  • What's appalling in the video are the clips of the Antipopesplainers claimg that Jorge is being perfectly orthodox, including the one guy that had previously condemned the blessings of couples.  It's diabolical.

    Offline AnthonyPadua

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    Re: MHFM on "Fiducia Supplicans"
    « Reply #3 on: January 07, 2024, 06:29:48 PM »
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  • What's appalling in the video are the clips of the Antipopesplainers claimg that Jorge is being perfectly orthodox, including the one guy that had previously condemned the blessings of couples.  It's diabolical.
    Wait is their statements diabolical or is it out of context? Sorry at work atm will have to watch later.

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    Re: MHFM on "Fiducia Supplicans"
    « Reply #4 on: January 07, 2024, 06:45:42 PM »
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  • Very good, especially around the 14:00-22:00 minute marks regarding what St. Gregory VII says about "not daring" to bless those who are obstinate in their disobedience/sin. I have been seeing a lot of people saying how "the Church will bless anyone who asks for it" and it did not occur to me just how wrong that is until now.
    If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you [John 15:108


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    Re: MHFM on "Fiducia Supplicans"
    « Reply #5 on: January 07, 2024, 06:54:16 PM »
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  • It's absurd to think that a sodomitical "couple" is going to ask for a blessing for any reason other than a validation of their depravity.
    If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you [John 15:108

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    Re: MHFM on "Fiducia Supplicans"
    « Reply #6 on: January 07, 2024, 09:57:26 PM »
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  • What's appalling in the video are the clips of the Antipopesplainers claimg that Jorge is being perfectly orthodox, including the one guy that had previously condemned the blessings of couples.  It's diabolical.
    Michael Lofton is a doozy, and it seems like he's been posting daily defense videos of FS. Bergoglio can do no wrong in his eyes. He's high on an impressive supply of copium

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    Re: MHFM on "Fiducia Supplicans"
    « Reply #7 on: January 08, 2024, 06:12:12 AM »
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  • Just watched it, it was excellent


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    Re: MHFM on "Fiducia Supplicans"
    « Reply #8 on: January 11, 2024, 11:56:09 PM »
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  • Michael Lofton is a doozy, and it seems like he's been posting daily defense videos of FS. Bergoglio can do no wrong in his eyes. He's high on an impressive supply of copium
    My son sprang that word on me tonight, said that I was taking it to address a personal issue that I won't share here.

    I never knew that word before I read your comment the other day, so I was able to respond to his observation with a gentle rebuttal.  

    Thanks for helping me out there.

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    Re: MHFM on "Fiducia Supplicans"
    « Reply #9 on: January 12, 2024, 06:19:48 AM »
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  • Wait is their statements diabolical or is it out of context? Sorry at work atm will have to watch later.

    Video points out the one pope-splainer (I like how the Dimonds use the term "Antipope-splainer" instead) who before Fiducia Fornicans stated that it would be evil and non-Catholic to bless a "couple" (vs. an individual) and than after FF declaring the opposite, that it's perfectly Catholic to bless the couple.  That shows great dishonesty and mendacity.

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    Re: MHFM on "Fiducia Supplicans"
    « Reply #10 on: January 12, 2024, 07:10:54 AM »
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  • Yes. Thanks, for excellent video. 


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    Re: MHFM on "Fiducia Supplicans"
    « Reply #11 on: January 12, 2024, 07:34:16 AM »
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  • May God bless you and keep you

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    Re: MHFM on "Fiducia Supplicans"
    « Reply #12 on: January 12, 2024, 07:34:37 AM »
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  • Another Catholic celebrity going for his doctorate.
    May God bless you and keep you

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    Re: MHFM on "Fiducia Supplicans"
    « Reply #13 on: January 12, 2024, 08:26:34 AM »
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  • Another Catholic celebrity going for his doctorate.
    Good point. What's with all the Hollywood celebrities becoming NewChurchers?

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    Re: MHFM on "Fiducia Supplicans"
    « Reply #14 on: January 12, 2024, 10:44:55 PM »
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  • Lofton is a wolf.  Plain and simple. Dimonds pretty much wrecked the guy in several videos the past year or so and point him out for what he is.  I've had a couple rounds with the guy via e-mail and he has no real interest in the truth, only in pushing his agenda and making some shekels.