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Mel Gibson gets an annulment?
« on: August 03, 2009, 02:33:32 PM »
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  • From the website Traditio:

    The demon that Mel Gibson once told BBC interviewer Michael Parkinson existed within him has come out in full fury. He has done a grave injustice to his wife of 29 years, Robyn, and his seven children by taking up, quite publicly to boot, an adulterous affair with Russian chantreuse Oksana Grogorieva, from which Grogorieva is carrying his bastard child. He has done a grave injustice to the traditional Catholic Faith that he claims to hold. Grave as these sins are, they could be viewed ultimately as the grave human failings of a man in mid-life crisis who has literally gone beserk.
    But now the other shoe has dropped. Apparently, the once-devout Gibson, however flawed, has turned hypocrite against God. Gibson is being reported in the August 10, 2009, National Enquirer, which has a record of hitting the mark when it comes to actual people (in spite of teaser article about cats being found on Mars), to have engineered an "annulment" by a bogus tribunal at his once-traditional Catholic Church of the Holy Family, which he built in Agoura Hills, California, from the proceeds of his 2004 The Passion of the Christ. The tribunal was reportedly presided over by his father, Hutton Gibson, aged 90, who also claims to be a traditional Catholic and publishes a monthly broadside entitled The War Is Now.
    The report indicates that the "annulment" was secretly arranged just a month after his wife filed for divorce on Easter Monday, April 13, 2009. The "grounds" for the annulment were that Mel "felt pressured" into the marriage because Robyn was pregnant. (So Gibson now turns out to be an admitted fornicator as well as an adulterer.) "Father" Hutton, therefore, declared the marriage "untrue." Hutton is, as we all know, a completely unbiased party and the world's greatest expert on the traditional canon law of marriage!
    With phony "annulment" in hand, Mel Gibson, aged 53, reportedly plans to commit bigamy by marrying his 14-year-junior adulteress in a splashy Christmas 2009 wedding. Mel Gibson would thus join the cadre of phony "Catholics" who have become public sinners barred from the true Sacraments. One thinks of the husband of four wives, the self-proclaimed "Catholic" congressman, the late Sonny Bono. One thinks of the bigamist former congressman Joseph Kennedy, who finagled a phony "annulment" from the Novus Ordo Church against his wife Sheila Raunch Kennedy, who was so aggrieved by the simony of Newchurch in the affair that she wrote a scanting book, entitled Shattered Faith, about the injustice of her experience. And, although it is a secret covered up even more deeply than the rape and assault upon hundreds of children by Novus Ordo bishops and presbyters, the Newchurch archdiocese of Boston is suspected of having granted a "secret annulment" to current U.S. Senator Ted Kennedy, to enter into a bigamist "marriage" with his adulteress, Victoria Reggie.
    This is the ilk, together the other 60,000 granted phony "annulments" by the Novus Ordo Church in the United States each year, with whom Mel Gibson now associates himself. (Before Vatican II there were only about 100 annulments granted worldwide.) Gibson's real wife is apparently no better. It is said that Robyn Gibson hasn't even waited for the civil divorce to be granted before "having the time of her life with a new guy from Northern California."
    Good Catholics, how are we to explain Gibson's precipitous fall from Faith? He himself given us all the clues we need. He has admitted that he has been fighting a demon all his life. The period of his 40s, when he returned to the practice of the traditional Catholic Faith, in which he was brought up and acted as a Catholic husband and father, were the most successful years of his life. He produced his best work: the Academy-Award-winning Braveheart (1995) The Patriot (2000), and The Passion of the Christ (2004).
    Perhaps partly as a result of the unending and virulent attacks upon Gibson and his religion for over two years by the anti-Catholic bigot and Jєωιѕн radical activist Abraham Foxman, National Director of the Sons of the Jєωιѕн Covenant [B'nai B'rith], who tried to derail the production of Gibson's The Passion of the Christ, Gibson gave in to the demon in his life, mainly the binge-drinking that led to two arrests for drunk driving, and now to womanizing and the destruction of his family and his Faith.
    As the Scriptures teach us about mankind: "They are corrupt, and are become abominable in their ways: there is none that doth good, no not one (Psalms 13:1/DRV). It is sad to see a man fall from the Faith so badly, but then we see a Novus Ordo pope who has suborned the rape and assault by his bishops and presbyters upon tens of thousands of children. We see an Novus Ordo archbishop who is a sodomist and thief of a sizable sum from the Church poor-box to pay this catamite's blackmail. We see a bishop who claims to be traditional, yet who engineers the sellout of a large, supposedly traditional organization to the New Order that the organization's founder condemned as "not Catholic."
    That, good Catholics, is the world we live in. That is why the true Faith is so important and why, when men fall from it, they fall hard.
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    Offline Caraffa

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    Mel Gibson gets an annulment?
    « Reply #1 on: August 03, 2009, 06:02:30 PM »
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  • It looks as though his father is granting him one. I think it is best that Trads distance ourselves from Gibson and his cult once and for all. I do think that Gibson was never one of us. He claimed to have become a Traditional Catholic in the early 90's, but I see little evidence of this. He was still in questionable movies, gave vulgar interviews('95 Playboy), committed scandalous public acts, etc.

    Mr. Gibson did not join any Traditional Catholic chapels like the SSPX, SSPV, or CMRI, or other SSPX friend independents, yet built his own so he could practice his antinomial version of the Catholic faith. The man has tons on money, yet never gave a dime of it to any "mainstream" Traditional Catholic organization.  I know that his children were not allowed to attend St. Mary's from what I understand because the priests there felt that what was being taught there would be rejected at home. At the end of it, they were right.
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    Mel Gibson gets an annulment?
    « Reply #2 on: August 04, 2009, 07:01:52 PM »
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  • Mahoney's representative said Mel is not Catholic and therefore has no recourse to the Diocesan tribunals.

    Ironically then, does this mean the Church does not recognize his marriage as valid? So much so that no tribunal is even warranted?

    Or am I reading this wrong?

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    Mel Gibson gets an annulment?
    « Reply #3 on: August 06, 2009, 07:54:52 AM »
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  • Quote from: stevusmagnus
    Mahoney's representative said Mel is not Catholic and therefore has no recourse to the Diocesan tribunals.

    Ironically then, does this mean the Church does not recognize his marriage as valid? So much so that no tribunal is even warranted?

    Or am I reading this wrong?


    Nor is Mahoney Catholic really, but does hold a valid office...welcome to Newchurch...but I digress

    Why is said marriage to Robyn not valid? Hutton, maye due to age, seems to have gone off deep end......then again, so, sadly, has Mel......need our prayers :incense:

    Hopefully, Gibosn will at least provide support to the unborn child, in whom there is no fault.prayers for that little one needed most especially (least we forget, Columbus had a illegitimate child as well)........ :incense:

    But yes, we should distance ourselves and call Gibson to repentance.....he gives scandal to us..........and aid to enemies of the Church..... :soapbox:
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    Mel Gibson gets an annulment?
    « Reply #4 on: August 06, 2009, 08:13:10 AM »
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  • Apparently, the FE are divided, Quis esp

    http://catholicforum.fisheaters.com/index.php/topic,3423308.15.html

     :scared2: :tv-disturbed:
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    Mel Gibson gets an annulment?
    « Reply #5 on: August 10, 2009, 01:51:06 AM »
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  • Quote from: Belloc
    Apparently, the FE are divided, Quis esp

    http://catholicforum.fisheaters.com/index.php/topic,3423308.15.html

     :scared2: :tv-disturbed:


    Of course they are split. Liberals are always walking contradictions. In this case they have to balance their hatred for Mel Gibson against their love of sɛҳuąƖ license.

    They hate Mel Gibson because he is Traditional in his beliefs, but they themselves want to be able to play fast and loose with their marriage vows too. Therefore they need to express disdain for him personally while trying the best they can to excuse his behavior under their "not judging" smokescreen. They must be terribly conflicted....

    P.S. I never looked at the link. Whatever they think on this issue is guaranteed to be wrong and irrelevant.

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    « Reply #6 on: August 10, 2009, 06:25:48 PM »
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  • Perhaps Quis and Vox will look to Hutton Gibson to give them their annulments if the NO tribunals give them the wrong answer?

    Belloc, maybe you can ask them that publicly on the forum and make it your last daring act before you are banned and the post is sent down the memory hole.  :laugh1:

    In the meantime I suppose they will continue to cohabitate in their civil marriage while truly married to other people. All the time running a "Catholic" forum and giving out lectures as to what is and is not Catholic teaching. But it's ok because their priest said it was.  :wink:

    Why anyone would continue to contribute to that farcical forum with their time and energy I have no idea. I feel duped that I did not find out about the scandal until after I was banned for being too Catholic. Otherwise I would have quit a long time ago.

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    Mel Gibson gets an annulment?
    « Reply #7 on: January 13, 2010, 02:18:04 AM »
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  • If iran were catholic, our race would be extinct now!
      We had an eight years war which left a great number of people with different mental illnesses.... depression, anxiety, phobias etc.
      Although millions were killed, the population didn't decrease. It rather increased.
      What would happen if they were catholic and believed in nulity of marriages of depressed people? Who would compensate for loss of millions of lives?
      What does The Church do in those societies where a great percentage of people are afflicted. (because of war or other disasters)?
      In Quis' case, he said that his wife killed his favorite dogs, alas.... our loss was infintely greater than his.....


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    « Reply #8 on: January 13, 2010, 02:26:04 AM »
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  • Unless I am mistaken, his real name is Mel Gibstien.
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    « Reply #9 on: January 13, 2010, 02:30:47 AM »
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  • Quote from: spouse of Jesus
    If iran were catholic, our race would be extinct now!
      We had an eight years war which left a great number of people with different mental illnesses.... depression, anxiety, phobias etc.
      Although millions were killed, the population didn't decrease. It rather increased.
      What would happen if they were catholic and believed in nulity of marriages of depressed people? Who would compensate for loss of millions of lives?
      What does The Church do in those societies where a great percentage of people are afflicted. (because of war or other disasters)?
      In Quis' case, he said that his wife killed his favorite dogs, alas.... our loss was infintely greater than his.....


    Depression, anxiety, and phobias aren't critierias that can nullify a marriage. It is severe mental illness that does.

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    Mel Gibson gets an annulment?
    « Reply #10 on: January 13, 2010, 06:11:50 AM »
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  • Yet another attack on the beautiful Sacrament of Matrimony. Mr. Gibson, you should be ashamed before God and man.

    Offer up a prayer for him and his wife  :pray:

    Regards from a happily married man from England!

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    « Reply #11 on: January 13, 2010, 08:07:43 AM »
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  • Hutton Gibson is a crank and this proves it. He has no authority to give annulments to anyone.

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    « Reply #12 on: January 13, 2010, 08:09:21 AM »
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  • [/quote]

    Depression, anxiety, and phobias aren't critierias that can nullify a marriage. It is severe mental illness that does. [/quote]

    The severe mental illness must be present at the time of the marriage, such that true consent was never given.

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    « Reply #13 on: January 13, 2010, 08:25:48 AM »
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  • Mental illness contracted after the marriage took place is not grounds for a real annulment.

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    « Reply #14 on: January 13, 2010, 09:51:58 AM »
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  • This illustrates the fact that Hutten Gibson's opinions about Fatima need to be taken with a box of salt.

    There are too many self-styled theologians and hot-shots in the trad movement, and too many souls without good priests to set things straight.  This home-grown annullment is an example of the diabolical disorientation Sr. Lucia of Fatima warned about.