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Traditional Catholic Faith => Crisis in the Church => Topic started by: s2srea on November 10, 2020, 08:37:13 AM

Title: McCarrick Report out.
Post by: s2srea on November 10, 2020, 08:37:13 AM
https://www.ncregister.com/news/the-mccarrick-report-full-text-and-a-vatican-summary


RTF MEDIA : "“The [400 page!] summary also cites a previously un-reported case in which Vigano in 2012 allegedly failed to act on Vatican instructions to investigate new claims against McCarrick by a Brazilian-born New Jersey priest.”

The AP was given this talking point. Not random."


Cream City Catholic : "To be taken seriously the McCarrick Report would have to be followed up w/ scores of ecclesial penalties, demotions, firings (& more) of many leaders currently in positions of significant influence. To leave it at, "We have learned from this. Now let's move on..." isn't enough."

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The #McCarrickReport (https://mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/McCarrickReport?src=hashtag_click) is a sad whitewash. Contrary to this headline, blaming JPII, the report says "3 of the 4" New Jersey bishops" provided John Paul “with inaccurate and incomplete in information…regarding McCarrick’s sɛҳuąƖ conduct with young adults
Title: Re: McCarrick Report out.
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on November 11, 2020, 06:08:06 AM
This is just all a communist global distraction.  Rome is a global communist pedophile ring down to dioceses and parishes working with global pedophile United Nations. 
Title: Re: McCarrick Report out.
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on November 11, 2020, 06:14:50 AM
The McCarrick Report Is Worse Than We Thought

https://www.crisismagazine.com/2020/the-mccarrick-report-is-worse-than-we-thought?mc_cid=b6bea8f3af&mc_eid=72ec12853e
Title: Re: McCarrick Report out.
Post by: Ladislaus on November 11, 2020, 09:49:18 AM
The McCarrick Report Is Worse Than We Thought

https://www.crisismagazine.com/2020/the-mccarrick-report-is-worse-than-we-thought?mc_cid=b6bea8f3af&mc_eid=72ec12853e
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John Paul could have done something. At the very least he could have neglected to advance McCarrick, to say nothing of punishment. But he didn’t. This fundamental weakness, which clearly affects even our saints[sic], is the major cause of the corruption in our Church

Is it too late to de-canonize Wojtyla?  Wojtyla the Great also knew about the situation with Maciel.

Sounds like the Vatican is throwing Wojtyla under the bus to save Bergoglio.
Title: Re: McCarrick Report out.
Post by: Mark 79 on November 11, 2020, 09:59:43 AM
Is it too late to de-canonize Wojtyla?  Wojtyla the Great also knew about the situation with Maciel.

Sounds like the Vatican is throwing Wojtyla under the bus to save Bergoglio.
…and Wojtla the Second Worst (http://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#wojtyla) also "canonized" Escri(b)va (http://judaism.is/opus-dei.html).
Title: Re: McCarrick Report out.
Post by: Ladislaus on November 11, 2020, 10:00:51 AM
…and Wojtla the Second Worst (http://judaism.is/dishonorable-mentions.html#wojtyla) also "canonized" Escri(b)va (http://judaism.is/opus-dei.html).

"santo subito" all around

See, I disagree a bit.  I would declare Montini the Worst, and Wojtyla the Second Worst ... in terms of their accomplishments (i.e. the degree of harm they caused).  Bergoglio is of course over the top, but he can't do any damage among conservative Catholics since they see him for what he is.  Wojtyla was a good actor, and of course Montini brought us Vatican II and the NOM.  Wojtlya, by holding the line on morals and some progressive issues like women priests and feminism, made himself appear to be a bulwark of orthodoxy ... which then alllowed him to be the greatest promoter of religious indifferentism in history.  Berogligo then came along now to finish the job on the front of morals.
Title: Re: McCarrick Report out.
Post by: 2Vermont on November 11, 2020, 10:03:51 AM
Is it too late to de-canonize Wojtyla?  Wojtyla the Great also knew about the situation with Maciel.

Sounds like the Vatican is throwing Wojtyla under the bus to save Bergoglio.
Not necessary.  He never was.
Title: Re: McCarrick Report out.
Post by: Ladislaus on November 11, 2020, 10:05:54 AM
Not necessary.  He never was.

Well, right, but I mean from the NO perspective.
Title: Re: McCarrick Report out.
Post by: Prayerful on November 11, 2020, 11:22:17 AM
"santo subito" all around

See, I disagree a bit.  I would declare Montini the Worst, and Wojtyla the Second Worst ... in terms of their accomplishments (i.e. the degree of harm they caused).  Bergoglio is of course over the top, but he can't do any damage among conservative Catholics since they see him for what he is.  Wojtyla was a good actor, and of course Montini brought us Vatican II and the NOM.  Wojtlya, by holding the line on morals and some progressive issues like women priests and feminism, made himself appear to be a bulwark of orthodoxy ... which then alllowed him to be the greatest promoter of religious indifferentism in history.  Berogligo then came along now to finish the job on the front of morals.
At least with JP2 the Mass of Ages did again become accessible in places at a time when there was still plenty of diocesan priests with traditional orders.