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Offline Maria Regina

Re: New Bishops Instructed by Francis
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2017, 05:44:45 PM »
Who are you? Are you a priest?


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>You ask much, and what little that you do answer is rarely clear and unequivocal; why?

If you can ask personal questions, but refuse to answer questions, so can I.

In fact, you repeatedly tend to toss in questions that have nothing to do with the topic at hand.
Are you a female or a feminized male? Men tend to stay on topic, but you do not.

I gather from your own equivocal comment above that you are indeed a New Church priest or an ex-priest (Jesuit) as I detect a lot of theological and philosophical knowledge, including Marxism, with your unveiled comment that religion is the opium of the masses.
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Offline DZ PLEASE

Re: New Bishops Instructed by Francis
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2017, 05:47:26 PM »
Quote from: Maria Regina on October 01, 2017, 05:44:45 PM
Who are you? Are you a priest?


If you can ask personal questions, but refuse to answer questions, so can I.

In fact, you repeatedly tend to toss in questions that have nothing to do with the topic at hand.
Are you a female or a feminized male? Men tend to stay on topic, but you do not.

I gather from your own equivocal comment above that you are indeed a New Church priest or an ex-priest (Jesuit) as I detect a lot of theological and philosophical knowledge, including Marxism, with your unveiled comment that religion is the opium of the masses.
Tried again, and more fool me.

Take care ma'am.
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Offline Maria Regina

Re: New Bishops Instructed by Francis
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2017, 06:58:53 PM »
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The Bishop’s discernment is always a community action, which does not disregard the richness of the opinion … of the People of God … In serene dialogue, he is not afraid to share, and even sometimes change, his discernment with others … with lay faithful , because they retain the “sense of smell” of the true infallibility of the faith that resides in the Church.
Also notice, that the Bishops may change their discernment under the influence of the laity  ...
Does this mean "continuing revolution" in the words of the former Cardinal Mahony of Los Angeles?

Some of my friends in the Vatican II NewChurch act like the three monkeys:
Hear no evil.
See no evil.
Say no evil.

They are lacking in discernment because they will not see nor hear evil. How can they advise their bishops?
They have been told by their Jesuit confessors to put on blinders and never judge or see heresies, and certainly not to be holier than the Pope.
In addition, they are being told to stay in the NewChurch because it is better to be part of the solution than part of the problem.

So, I get phone calls from them, begging me to return to the NO Mass and urging me to join Opus Dei.

So, now they have become part of the BIGGER problem, which is the increasing secularization and modernization of the Vatican II New Church.
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Offline Maria Regina

Re: New Bishops Instructed by Francis
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2017, 02:13:41 AM »
http://www.francisquotes.com/

All these thoughts are being instilled into the new bishops of NewChurch.
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Offline JPaul

Re: New Bishops Instructed by Francis
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2017, 09:21:05 AM »
Quote from: Maria Regina on October 01, 2017, 06:58:53 PM
QuoteAlso notice, that the Bishops may change their discernment under the influence of the laity  ...
Does this mean "continuing revolution" in the words of the former Cardinal Mahony of Los Angeles?

Some of my friends in the Vatican II NewChurch act like the three monkeys:
Hear no evil.
See no evil.
Say no evil.

They are lacking in discernment because they will not see nor hear evil. How can they advise their bishops?
They have been told by their Jesuit confessors to put on blinders and never judge or see heresies, and certainly not to be holier than the Pope.
In addition, they are being told to stay in the NewChurch because it is better to be part of the solution than part of the problem.

So, I get phone calls from them, begging me to return to the NO Mass and urging me to join Opus Dei.

So, now they have become part of the BIGGER problem, which is the increasing secularization and modernization of the Vatican II New Church.
Add another heresy to the Francis haystack. The discernment of any given Bishop and more particularly that of the Faithful does not contribute to or determine the infallibility of the Church. This foolish idea is a byproduct of the Vatican II heresy of the Church's Tradition issuing forth from the ruminations and ponderings of the Faithful which was promoted by John Paul II when he accussed Lefebvre of having an "incomplete" understanding of Tradition because he did not subscribe to this heretical conciliar idea.
Getting Traditional Bishops and clerics to identify and conclude as to this man's status is harder than getting Russia to be consecrated. ;)
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