I was thinking about how the Jesuit De Lugo was the first to spread the heresy that Jєωs could be saved in their religion outside the Church, and it hit me that he could possibly have been a Marrano Jєω.  

Some may think this is patriotism, since I am half-Spanish, but this kind of skulduggery that you see with Suarez and De Lugo and apparently a whole passel of the Spanish Jesuits is hardly characteristic of a Spaniard.   The Spanish have faults like hot-temperedness, pride, laziness and so on, but overly refined subtlety is not something that you will often see associated with the people of Spain.  Catholic Spaniards are people more prone to stab you in the guts if you say Mary was born with original sin than to slip heresies into multi-volume works of theology like some kind of John Dee-style occultist.  We are just not a subtle breed.

My suspicions increased when I saw a picture of Francisco Suarez where he looks the very spitting image of the deadpan Jєωιѕн actor Bob Balaban.  ( I'm not kidding, look at both pictures ).

Francisco Suarez

Bob Balaban

But for some reason I never looked up the Jєωιѕн connection to the Jesuits until just now.  Surprise surprise.  On a site called Jesuits of Jєωιѕн Ancestry, we find our old friend Juan De Lugo.  Suarez however is not listed.

http://sites.google.com/a/Jєωιѕнjesuits.com/www/biographies-l

I have no idea if this website is accurate or not but it wouldn't surprise me at all if the Jesuits really were this inundated with Jєωry.  Apparently everyone agrees that the second Superior General of the Jesuits after St. Ignatius -- the St. Bonaventure of the Jesuits -- Cristobal Lainez, was Jєωιѕн.

There is nothing intrinsically wrong with the Jesuit Order that would explain the unfortunate confusion that it has spread throughout the world especially in the last two centuries.  I'm not accusing Bellarmine or St. Francis Xavier of being triple agents.  But I will say I believe Father Feeney may have been part of one of the all-time great Jesuit plots, since he served as a huge distraction from the real EENS heresy, the one promoted by De Lugo -- another Jesuit!  

You may say, but Father Feeney wasn't Jєωιѕн... There are other types who have an axe to grind with Christ and His Church, just as there are those misled by pride.  Whatever he was, what is this nonsense, out of the blue, of saying BoD is a heresy, which no one at all suggested for centuries until this Irishman?  All I know is that the true Catholic teaching on EENS has been so effectively buried that myself and a handful of others are apparently the only sedevacantists alive who hold the position of St. Thomas Aquinas, St. Augustine, St. Robert Bellarmine and St. Alphonsus, the rest of the sedes being either in the Feeney camp or in the liberal-sedevacantist camp which is infected by De Lugo's heresy!  

It's like no one can see the right road to follow, and the more and more people join up with either of the two camps, the farther off-track they get.  Because no one wants to be alone and this makes people easy to be sucked in through peer pressure.  Notice how Feeneyites say "I just want to be your friend, if only you'll believe this weird theory I'm telling you that makes no sense, and if you'll only deny thousands of years of Catholic teaching."  Meanwhile, the liberal sedes passive-aggressively inculcate their heresy by acting as if it can't be questioned and relying on Pius XII and Suprema Haec Sacra to give it a spurious "papal" approval, like I'm going to take the side of this NFP-teaching, Bugnini-hiring, Holy Week-perverting bad-Pope or anti-Pope over the rest of the Church throughout history.  This side is the much more vicious enemy for now.  They have the clerics, and they have the power and numbers, such as they are.  They are true wolves' in sheeps' clothing, and can afford to look humble because they have the flock right in their jaws and the flock aren't even struggling, thinking that the Church has always taught salvation in false religions.  

What a disaster.  Anyway, all of this with the Marrano Jesuits, whether rumor or fact, reminds me of the prophecy that many Jєωs will return to the Church before the advent of Anti-Christ.  I wonder if anyone has thought this through carefully.  First the return of the Jєωs into the fold, and THEN the Anti-Christ -- must be entirely unconnected, huh?  How could that happen?  

Fr Diego( James)  Laynez was a true converso and not a marrano.

The reason the marranos have been so insistant in their infiltration of the Jesuit order has been to destroy it. There were two main efforts at this.

1-- The revolt against the Constitutions of St Ignatius-- this effort failed. Afterwards it was decided that Judaics had to be banned from the order strictly by race. FR Aroaz( nephew of ST Ignatius) wanted this all along and he was proven right. It should also be noted that Alex VI was forced to take similar action in the Dominican Order at one time.

2-- The actons of the Illuminst Strict Obsevance which included the marrano Wieshaupt-- this effort failed as well although there are some ( like Raoul) who believe that Wieshaupt was a real Jesuit and they run the NWO today.

Sources for the above info include Von Pastor,  Broderick, Barthel, Aveling, Harney, Fulop- Miller etc

Before you throw toss Suarez out of theology, Raoul, know that he is a thorn in the side of so-called theistic evolutionists. He was a strong proponent not only of special creation, but also a literal reading of the six days of creation. Even "Darwin's bulldog" Thomas Huxley remarked something to the extent that if Suarez is of any authority on this topic, then evolution is outright heresy according to the Church.

Oh, I see, Weishaupt was a Jesuit.  Well, it will gratify you to know, roscoe, that the Fantomas-like figure of Weishaupt, to whom is ascribed all kinds of evil, has always struck me as being fantastical and a red herring.  I have never quite been able to figure out how Illuminism differs from Masonry.  It's like Masonry for experts, those who don't need the pseudo-religious formalities and who have a more direct line to Satan.

I have often thought that Masonry developed its series of arcane codes and rituals as a way for its initiates to overcome their conscience.  You start out slowly and gradually more is revealed to those who show they are willing to overcome various shackles of morality.  Supposedly if you attain a high degree, you are supposed to commit ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ acts, either in the Freemasons or in the OTO or both.  That all of this is expressed and carried out in an elaborate series of degrees gives it an "official" character.  

If someone came up to you on the street and said, "Hey fella, bugger me every Friday and I'll make you a Supreme Court judge," they'd get a punch in the nose.  Therefore people have to be indoctrinated slowly into this strange new world, they have to prove their willingness.  Freemasons need the veener of religion and of morality to pretend that what they're doing is right.  "Okay, I let someone bugger me to get my job, but these other guys are doing it and they all believe in the Supreme Architect."

It is the reverse of Catholicism.  Just as Mass and the sacraments increase piety and keep God ever in your mind, the rites of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ give an official character to doing the work of Satan in the world.  They make the irrational seem rational and well-ordered.

Higher-level nogoodniks, however, do not need these sentimental preliminaries.  They do not need to overcome their own consciences through pretentious ritual, and are more in touch with their evil.  Weishaupt, if he really was what they say, would have been like that.  

 'Collision course to error'-- i'll have time for this crap later.  :judge:

I hope all are paying attention to those who trash the Jesuits.

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I hope all are paying attention to those who trash the Jesuits.

Why is that an issue?

Post-Vatican II Jesuits are not the ones being talked about, the ones that are being mentioned belonged to the Jesuit order within, I think, the first hundred and fifty years after the founding of this order.

I just wanted to illustrate my previous example by referring to Francisco Suárez.  He joined the Jesuits when they were barely 30 years old.  Suarez made many blunders in his philosophy and theology with the exception of political/legal philosophy.  

He is referred to as a great scholastic, but this is really overstating things.

In 1679, Pope Innocent XI condemned 65 propositions from mostly Jesuit theologians.  This was a mere 150 years after the order was founded.  Good intentions, bad results.  And its fruit we are now seeing in the Church.