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Title: Majority of Cardinals in the Conclave are ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs
Post by: Jr1991 on May 03, 2025, 10:36:45 PM
It may seem shocking to some but this is the truth as Fr.Jenkins states . We should always pray and hope for a miracle just as long as we don’t fall into despair if there is none.

https://rumble.com/v6sr9kv-what-catholics-believe-42925.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp


Title: Re: Majority of Cardinals in the Conclave are ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs
Post by: WhiteWorkinClassScapegoat on May 03, 2025, 10:40:15 PM
Pray that God strike them all dead, now.
Title: Re: Majority of Cardinals in the Conclave are ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs
Post by: Giovanni Berto on May 03, 2025, 10:45:24 PM
As it is, it is impossible for a good man to become Pope.

As unlikely as it seems, the only way that the Novus Ordo establishment can go back on track is if a bad man is elected and somehow converts to the true faith, like Vigano did.
Title: Re: Majority of Cardinals in the Conclave are ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs
Post by: WhiteWorkinClassScapegoat on May 03, 2025, 10:49:35 PM
https://www.traditioninaction.org/religious/n009rp_ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖPriests.htm

ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ Priests Must Be Deprived of Their Clerical Dignity and Put to Death

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In the Renaissance the vice of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity again became prominent. This was a matter of great concern to Pope St. Pius V. For this reason, he wrote several important docuмents against it beginning in the first year of his pontificate. The most important is the Constitution Horrendum illud scelus, whose central text we reproduce below.
In our days of moral relaxation and liberalization of customs, we are witnessing a shameful complacence of the religious authority - even the highest - toward the vice of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity in the clergy and seminaries.
We consider it quite opportune to bring to mind those perennial, unchanging principles expressed by St. Pius V in his Apostolic Constitution. Perhaps they will open some eyes to see the depths of the abyss into which we have fallen.



St. Pius V

That horrible crime, on account of which corrupt and obscene cities were destroyed by fire through divine condemnation, causes us most bitter sorrow and shocks our mind, impelling us to repress such a crime with the greatest possible zeal.

Quite opportunely the Fifth Lateran Council [1512-1517] issued this decree: "Let any member of the clergy caught in that vice against nature, given that the wrath of God falls over the sons of perfidy, be removed from the clerical order or forced to do penance in a monastery" (chap. 4, X, V, 31).

So that the contagion of such a grave offense may not advance with greater audacity by taking advantage of impunity, which is the greatest incitement to sin, and so as to more severely punish the clerics who are guilty of this nefarious crime and who are not frightened by the death of their souls, we determine that they should be handed over to the severity of the secular authority, which enforces civil law.

Therefore, wishing to pursue with greater rigor than we have exerted since the beginning of our pontificate, we establish that any priest or member of the clergy, either secular or regular, who commits such an execrable crime, by force of the present law be deprived of every clerical privilege, of every post, dignity and ecclesiastical benefit, and having been degraded by an ecclesiastical judge, let him be immediately delivered to the secular authority to be put to death, as mandated by law as the fitting punishment for laymen who have sunk into this abyss.


(Constitutionn Horrendum illud scelus, August 30, 1568, in Bullarium Romanum,
Rome: Typographia Reverendae Camerae Apostolicae, Mainardi, 1738, chap. 3, p. 33)



Title: Re: Majority of Cardinals in the Conclave are ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs
Post by: Jr1991 on May 03, 2025, 10:59:20 PM
The discussion on this topic begins at the 15-minute mark.
Title: Re: Majority of Cardinals in the Conclave are ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs
Post by: Giovanni Berto on May 04, 2025, 12:54:55 PM
https://www.traditioninaction.org/religious/n009rp_ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖPriests.htm

ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ Priests Must Be Deprived of Their Clerical Dignity and Put to Death

What a glorious time when both the Pope and the civil rulers condemned this nasty vice.
Title: Re: Majority of Cardinals in the Conclave are ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs
Post by: Cera on May 04, 2025, 04:34:55 PM
What a glorious time when both the Pope and the civil rulers condemned this nasty vice.
Link not working.
Title: Re: Majority of Cardinals in the Conclave are ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs
Post by: Ladislaus on May 04, 2025, 05:25:04 PM
... and 100% are heretics.

Perhaps the only ones in the entire lot who aren't pertinacious / formal heretics are Burke and Sarah.  There isn't a single other one that doesn't completely reject the faith, and even Burke and Sarah do nothing but lavish praise on the notorious heresiarch Wojtyla the Great, which means they approve of Wojtyla's heretical religious indifferentism ... but we'll give them some benefit of the doubt that their brains are just confused.  Attempting to reconcile Wojtyla and sympathies towards Traditional Catholicism leads to mental illness, since the two are diametrically opposed.
Title: Re: Majority of Cardinals in the Conclave are ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs
Post by: Ladislaus on May 04, 2025, 05:27:28 PM
As it is, it is impossible for a good man to become Pope.

As unlikely as it seems, the only way that the Novus Ordo establishment can go back on track is if a bad man is elected and somehow converts to the true faith, like Vigano did.

No ... these elections aren't even valid anymore.
Title: Re: Majority of Cardinals in the Conclave are ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs
Post by: Ladislaus on May 04, 2025, 05:28:59 PM
Sadly, 95%+ of the Trad clergy don't even understand the theological causes of the crisis, and would roll things back to the 1950s ... thinking that everything was just swell back then.
Title: Re: Majority of Cardinals in the Conclave are ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs
Post by: Geremia on May 04, 2025, 05:33:39 PM
... and 100% are heretics.
Yes, they're all Modernists and support the Novus Ordo.
Title: Re: Majority of Cardinals in the Conclave are ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs
Post by: Geremia on May 04, 2025, 05:33:53 PM
Pray that God strike them all dead, now.
Let's pray for their conversion. That would be better.
Title: Re: Majority of Cardinals in the Conclave are ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs
Post by: Ladislaus on May 04, 2025, 05:59:32 PM
Yes, they're all Modernists and support the Novus Ordo.

I think that one sees where a Sarah and Burke appear to cautiously favor the Tridentine Mass over the NOM, so those two might be the only ones who still have Catholic faith left ... but then they've both lavished praise on the heresiarch Wojtyla.  And these are the two best they have.

Erdo is a Jєωιѕн puppet and a liberal, despite the Overton-window-shifted perception of him as some kind of conservative.  After that, you've got the Pizza guy, who is an Ecuмenist and religous indifferentist as the the "fourth most conservative" in their warped lists.
Title: Re: Majority of Cardinals in the Conclave are ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs
Post by: MiracleOfTheSun on May 04, 2025, 07:08:05 PM
Can I be Catholic and harbor the feeling that it might be nice to see a nuke land on the conclave?  Not that I do (quite yet) but if it's allowed I might really start to hope.  Ka-BOOM
Title: Re: Majority of Cardinals in the Conclave are ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs
Post by: WhiteWorkinClassScapegoat on May 04, 2025, 09:04:45 PM
Link not working.
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How long have you been on this forum? (Rhetorical question) How do you not realize the link "doesn't work" (it actually works) because this forum's software alters letters of certain words so it's not seen by non-members? Simply replace with original letters/words and you'll be able to open the link. 
Title: Re: Majority of Cardinals in the Conclave are ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs
Post by: Geremia on May 04, 2025, 09:41:23 PM
I think that one sees where a Sarah and Burke appear to cautiously favor the Tridentine Mass over the NOM, so those two might be the only ones who still have Catholic faith left ... but then they've both lavished praise on the heresiarch Wojtyla.
And Burke has said the SSPX is schismatic.
Thus, whoever they elect must convert to the Catholic Faith and express this externally, such as by declaring Vatican II utterly null and void.

The Modernist electors are still able to perform a valid election:
Apologia de comparata auctoritate Papæ et Concilii (https://www.wmreview.org/p/papal-elections-journet-cajetan#_ftn7), n° 744:
Quote from: Cdl. Cajetan
impossibile est Ecclesiam relinqui absque Papa et potestate electiva Papæ
[It's impossible that the Church be left without a Pope and the power to elect a Pope.]