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Offline ByzCat3000

Re: Lots of Hatred for the SSPX here
« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2021, 06:11:00 PM »
Quote from: MyrnaM on July 07, 2021, 06:03:45 PM
ByzCat with all due respect, your note above with all the confusion you described only proves that the Chair of Peter is vacant.  Sedevacantism defined as the Chair is vacant simply put!
Where are the Marks of the Church?   God is not a God of confusion nor can He deceive nor be deceived nor can His Church.  Who dares to break the First Commandment of Divine Law?  Who?   "Hesitant to make that call."  You say!
God bless you!  Myrna
God remains not a God of confusion regardless of whether a fake pope has done this or just a very bad one. Saying its a fake pope instead of just a very bad one does not fundamentally change the issue.
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Offline MyrnaM

Re: Lots of Hatred for the SSPX here
« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2021, 06:50:54 PM »
I am in no position to imply how you reason out the logic of this; I can only speak for myself!  It is not complicated, this crisis! 

 
God who is ALL PERFECT, ALL KNOWING would never allow HIS REPRESENTATIVE on earth to deceive us, in the way that Francis and his predecessors have.
How is it possible that the Holy Ghost is allowing this, even a natural organization would not allow this of their people, however, we are speaking of THE DIVINE!

Yes, we have had sinful popes AND anti-popes, but even the anti-popes were Catholic.  

In my mind, it would be as I would have to believe,  God allows Satan to rule His Church, while the Trinity takes a back seat unaffected at the sight of a myriad of souls falling into Hell, (speaking in general terms, not pointing at anyone in particular as in judging their soul.)  I believe in EENS, and VII takes souls outside the Church, not by taking away the Mass and Sacraments but by taking away THE FAITH which is the CHURCH.  All this while the devil dances!



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Offline DigitalLogos

Re: Lots of Hatred for the SSPX here
« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2021, 06:54:50 PM »
Quote from: ByzCat3000 on July 07, 2021, 06:11:00 PM
God remains not a God of confusion regardless of whether a fake pope has done this or just a very bad one. Saying its a fake pope instead of just a very bad one does not fundamentally change the issue.
Actually, it does. Which is why there's such a position as sedevacantism to begin with. The papacy is fundamentally tied to the indefectibility of the Church because of his role as the rule of faith and his power to infallibly define doctrine. Those are magisterial actions, meaning they cannot contradict Catholic tradition or lose the Faith. If they willingly do either of these things, they cannot be a Catholic, let alone the Vicar of Christ. Our Lord said that the faith would not fail St. Peter, yet it quite clearly has in the post-conciliar popes. So either Our Lord lied or these men aren't popes.
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