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Look what Vatican II has brought us -- women priests
« on: September 17, 2010, 11:01:25 AM »
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  • Though they're not priests, not even according to the V2 establishment -- but still, it seems to be a logical extension of the Novus Ordo Mass.

    http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2010/09/16/am.costello.women.priests.cnn

    Note the "invalid matter" she is holding up at the "consecration".
    Matches the "invalid matter" SHE was at her "ordination".

    Oh, and to the lady at the end -- it wasn't God who told you "you can be ordained".

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    Look what Vatican II has brought us -- women priests
    « Reply #1 on: September 17, 2010, 09:14:49 PM »
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  • Similar news: http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/2010/09/17/20100917phoenix-catholic-priest-excommunicated.html

    The Catholic bishop of Phoenix has excommunicated another priest.

    The Rev. Vernon Meyer, who had submitted his resignation to the bishop earlier this summer, becomes at least the fifth priest to be ousted from the church under Bishop Thomas J. Olmsted. He was not defrocked, which is a separate penalty.

    Meyer was penalized because of his participation in the ordination of Elaine Groppenbacher in Tempe last month.

    Olmsted said on the diocese website, "Actions such as these are extremely serious and carry with them profoundly harmful consequences for the salvation of the souls participating in this attempted ordination."

    Meyer, 58, is a longtime pastor and educator in the diocese. He most recently served at St. Patrick's Church in Scottsdale.

    He founded the Arizona Center for Theological Studies, which offers religious-studies classes.

    Meyer said he never doubted his vocation until Olmsted came to Phoenix.

    One of the bishop's initial actions was to order nine priests to recant their support of a statement supporting gαy rights within churches. Meyer said he removed his name from the statement but began to question the bishop's actions.

    Meyer follows Dale Fushek, Chris Carpenter, Mark Dippre and Gene Young among priests who have been thrown out of the church. They left the church for various reasons and joined other groups.

    Excommunication bans a person from participating in church life, including the sacraments. Church leaders say it is a remedial step aimed at bringing the violator back into the fold.

    Olmsted has gained a nationwide reputation for his excommunications, notably that of a Catholic nun, Sister Margaret McBride, at St. Joseph's Hospital in Phoenix. He said McBride participated in an abortion of a seriously ill woman with a life-threatening pregnancy.

    Meyer said his letter of excommunication arrived on Saturday but he did not open it until Tuesday, the day he became pastor of Sun Lakes United Church of Christ.


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    Look what Vatican II has brought us -- women priests
    « Reply #2 on: September 18, 2010, 12:17:36 AM »
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  • Matthew said--Though they're not priests, not even according to the V2 establishment -- but still, it seems to be a logical extension of the Novus Ordo Mass.

    Just some more of the devils work!! :devil2:

    I believe that if Our Lord wanted women to be priests he would have included his Blessed Mother at the Last Supper.



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    Look what Vatican II has brought us -- women priests
    « Reply #3 on: September 18, 2010, 11:35:11 AM »
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  • How is this a logical extension of the NO?  I am what most people here would probably call a conservative NO type.  I think I am simply Catholic. Whatever I am, however, I see nothing in the ordinary form of the Latin Rite that would in any ways support the heresy of saying that women can be ordained to the ministerial priesthood.  

    Also, does anyone think it is odd that there is never any proof offered of this "secret" bishop's simply existence?  Maybe a bishop who was a Catholic before these attempted ordinations does exist.  Maybe the bishop was an Old Catholic or )less likely) an Anglican.  
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir