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Author Topic: Live: Tonsure Minor Orders Subdeacons Deacon July 31, 2020  (Read 10502 times)

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Re: Live: Tonsure Minor Orders Subdeacons Deacon July 31, 2020
« Reply #25 on: August 01, 2020, 01:04:21 PM »
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To my knowledge, sedevacantist priests do not name a bishop in the canon.
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The una cuм clause identifies one's juridical superior, i.e., one's ordinary.  It is totally incorrect for Pfeiffer to mention Webster in the una cuм, so far as I can tell.
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Correction: I actually listened to the sermon, and Pfeiffer said he would 'pray for' Webster at all his masses. This is ambiguous, and it is not clear (to me) that he meant he would be inserting his name in the una cuм. 

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Re: Live: Tonsure Minor Orders Subdeacons Deacon July 31, 2020
« Reply #26 on: August 01, 2020, 04:22:57 PM »
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Correction: I actually listened to the sermon, and Pfeiffer said he would 'pray for' Webster at all his masses. This is ambiguous, and it is not clear (to me) that he meant he would be inserting his name in the una cuм.

Right.  He could (and most likely does) mean saying his name during the Memento for the living.


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Re: Live: Tonsure Minor Orders Subdeacons Deacon July 31, 2020
« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2020, 04:33:01 PM »
It's taken him this long to find a bishop will will consecrate him. It's a fact that he has been seeking consecration since at least 2013.

And this tells you something.  If I had a bit of time and money, I could go out right now and find a bishop to ordain and consecrate me (despite being married).  In fact, I had a +Thuc-line bishop offer to ordain me to the priesthood many years ago (but that was before I was married).

Perhaps some of the delay can be attributed to his reluctance to use a +Thuc-line bishop, most of whom are also sedevacantists.  And very few +Thuc-line bishops would consecrate a hard-line R&R.  Bishop Webster is not a theological hard-liner that way.  He has his opinions, but he doesn't bind the consciences of others with them.  I do have a lot of respect for him that way.  Maybe this might be an example of Traditional Catholics working together and helping each other out, despite such differences.  Unfortunately, he made a tragic error in judgment with this particular candidate ... not unlike +Thuc did on a number of occasions.

Re: Live: Tonsure Minor Orders Subdeacons Deacon July 31, 2020
« Reply #28 on: August 01, 2020, 05:58:03 PM »
Why not ordain more bishops and hold a conclave on the compound and be made Pope?  
Or maybe he’s holding off on that until next weekend?
I see nothing good coming out of this.

Re: Live: Tonsure Minor Orders Subdeacons Deacon July 31, 2020
« Reply #29 on: August 01, 2020, 06:27:40 PM »
Why not ordain more bishops and hold a conclave on the compound and be made Pope?  
Not sure at this point he would want to make people not dependent on him. Or potential competition.