Author Topic: Littel write up about SSPX and wrong doings (Read 2168 times)

CM · « **on:** March 29, 2009, 04:15:41 AM »

The SSPX is an apostate sect because they fail to denounce heresy as heresy and apostasy as apostasy. Just like the CMRI.

Peter · « **Reply #1 on:** March 29, 2009, 09:48:39 AM »

Dear CM,

How can you say that the CMRI or SSPX is an apostate sect. I have great reservations about the path that the SSPX is now pursuing and I would agree they are grievously mistaken about the question of BXVI and his non-papacy but I know many good SSPX priests and laity who adhere to the Faith, devotedly.

Since you are a fellow Canadian, to which Traditional Catholic organization do you adhere to here in Canada and avail yourself of the Sacraments?

Best wishes and a Blessed Lent,

Peter

Dawn · « **Reply #2 on:** March 29, 2009, 09:58:42 AM »

I am intereted as well. What you say on your "Who I am" is true. Many have 99.9% truth. It is that other .1% that will cause us to loose out soul. Americanism is the heresy I see most suffering from.

CM · « **Reply #3 on:** March 31, 2009, 06:50:12 PM »

Peter, Dawn, I wrote an article in response to the SSPX.

Here it is.

CM · « **Reply #4 on:** March 31, 2009, 06:53:56 PM »

And this is what I do in regard to sacraments.

CM · « **Reply #5 on:** April 02, 2009, 01:32:54 AM »

No thanks, I don't commune with heretics, no matter how 'close' they are to Catholic. And you shouldn't either.

Heretic Pivarunas is condemned by his own words as a false ecuмenist, in communion with other heretics like the SSPX.

By the way, beware this guy, Bill DeTucci's website. He is a heretic in communion with heretic Patrick Pollock, and he sells heretical books.

The Faith before the sacraments, people.

Psalms 49:5 Gather ye together his saints to him: who set his covenant before sacrifices.

Peter · « **Reply #6 on:** April 02, 2009, 01:28:59 PM »

Dear CM,

Here is what Mr. John Lane said about the matter, quite eruditely I might add. (URL is here)

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Schism is not a matter to be determined "subjectively." Schism is a refusal of subjection to the Roman Pontiff or a refusal of communion with those who are subject to the Roman Pontiff. The SSPX maintains a position which can be summarised as, subjection to the Roman Pontiff except where it is impossible (e.g. say the New Mass, believe in V2). This is classical as far as it goes, and therefore beyond criticism. Every traditional Catholic began his journey with this position, so that if it is so perverse, every traditional Catholic held a "schismatic" position at some point. The implications of this claim for ecclesiology are immense and catastrophic.

In any case, the question is to be determined objectively. Since there is no Roman Pontiff there can be no schism by failing to submit to him. There can still be schism by refusing communion with Catholics, of course...

The capitulation (i.e. very possible in my opinion) of the SSPX to the NO apparatus would of course change their situation. WRT to Bp. Pivarunas, I cannot see why you would call him a heretic. I cannot view your link since I have only dial-up internet but I believe the good Bishop follows the axiom mentioned above.....There can still be schism by refusing communion with fellow Catholics

I am just a simple layman. I suggest others in this forum are much more knowledgeable than I am and therefore more capable of discussing these issue here.

A Blessed Passiontide,

Peter

Dawn · « **Reply #7 on:** April 02, 2009, 03:47:26 PM »

That makes two of us. I can not pull it up either.

Dawn · « **Reply #8 on:** April 02, 2009, 04:40:03 PM »

They both originate in Afghanistan. The leader of Al-Queda is Bin Laden.

Peter · « **Reply #9 on:** April 02, 2009, 06:05:24 PM »

I would also like to add the following URL from the Bellarmine forums. I think it would profit many of us to read. Note that it was written a few years ago before the current "negotiations" between Bp. Felley and BXVI :

IS THE SSPX IN SCHISM ?

cheers,

Peter

CM · « **Reply #10 on:** April 05, 2009, 02:41:01 AM »

The Dimonds are heretics, so don't trust them too much, but what do they have to they have to say about Daly?

Dawn · « **Reply #11 on:** April 05, 2009, 07:36:50 AM »

Good grief. I just saw that I put a post to another thread on this. Sorry. BTW, I am reading things from your site. Thank you

spouse of Jesus · « **Reply #12 on:** April 05, 2009, 09:09:44 AM »

Quote from: Dawn

They both originate in Afghanistan. The leader of Al-Queda is Bin Laden.

Who?

Dawn · « **Reply #13 on:** April 05, 2009, 09:53:57 AM »

That was my mis-post it belonged somewhere else. And know if I want to know anything I have a friend in Iran to tell me the TRUTH.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #14 on:** April 05, 2009, 10:54:16 AM »

Quote from: Dawn

Good grief. I just saw that I put a post to another thread on this.

:roll-laugh1: Thank you for this unintended bit of humor in these difficult days! I love you, my dear lady!!!

I really liked that smilie who tipped his hat. In his place, I must utilize the "cowboy".