Send CathInfo's owner Matthew a gift from his Amazon wish list:
https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/25M2B8RERL1UO

« previous next »
Pages: [1]

Author Topic: List of priests not conditionally ordained in the SSPX  (Read 2161 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline s2srea

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5106
  • Reputation: +3896/-48
  • Gender: Male
List of priests not conditionally ordained in the SSPX
« on: August 13, 2013, 10:48:53 AM »
  • Thanks!2
  • No Thanks!0
    • If it would not be considered detraction/ calumny, I would be interested in seeking out those priests in the Society who have not been conditionally ordained, who came from the Novus Ordo. I remember hearing of at least two such priests around the time the current Crisis was taking off.

    I do not wish to ruin the reputation of such priests, doubtful or not, and if this thread is considered a form of unjust detraction, I am happy to have it removed.
    Logged

    Offline OHCA

    • Sr. Member
    • ****
    • Posts: 2833
    • Reputation: +1866/-111
    • Gender: Male
    List of priests not conditionally ordained in the SSPX
    « Reply #1 on: August 17, 2013, 10:28:24 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • BUMP

    I think this is a very valid question and a most rational concern.
    Logged

    Offline TCat

    • Jr. Member
    • **
    • Posts: 269
    • Reputation: +134/-0
    • Gender: Male
      • h
    List of priests not conditionally ordained in the SSPX
    « Reply #2 on: August 17, 2013, 12:28:43 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • Do you mind if I ask a question?

    "Does 'conditionally ordained' mean that they were ordained in the TRIDENTINE rite?" "Are all SSPX Tridentine rite?"
    Logged
    Crux Sacra Sit Mihi Lux! Ne Draco Sit Mihi Dux!

    Offline Mithrandylan

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 4452
    • Reputation: +5061/-436
    • Gender: Male
    List of priests not conditionally ordained in the SSPX
    « Reply #3 on: August 17, 2013, 05:55:02 PM »
  • Thanks!2
  • No Thanks!1
    • Quote from: TCat
    Do you mind if I ask a question?

    "Does 'conditionally ordained' mean that they were ordained in the TRIDENTINE rite?" "Are all SSPX Tridentine rite?"


    A conditional ordination is done when there is positive doubt to the validity of a priest's ordination, as there is for many traditionalists regarding the new episcopal and priestly ordination rites.  

    In the case of traditional groups, conditional ordinations are usually done when a priest defects from the Novus Ordo.  He is then conditionally ordained by an undoubtedly valid bishop using an undoubtedly valid rite (yes, the Tridentine rite).  It's the same principle as a conditional baptism or confirmation, and within the prayers the person administering the rite usually says something to the effect of 'If you are not already ordained/baptized/confirmed...' or 'If you can be ordained/baptized/confirmed'  It is not a RE-ordination (such a thing is sacrilegious) but a conditional one, as a result of positive doubt.

    To S2Srea, it is the furthest thing from detraction.  The faithful have a right to know that they are being ministered to by real priests, and the traditional clergy have a duty and obligation to ensure it.  

    Logged
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).

    Offline verilyCatholic

    • Newbie
    • *
    • Posts: 27
    • Reputation: +18/-22
    • Gender: Male
    Re: List of priests not conditionally ordained in the SSPX
    « Reply #4 on: December 04, 2018, 02:34:55 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
    • My nearest SSPX chapel (2X monthly) has taken on a new priory, that in Phoenix. I need Confession, because I have fallen into sin again. I am distressed at having the choice of a doubtfully ordained priest from Phoenix or a trip of over 200 miles to a Lefebvre ordained priest. Help!! And I'm old and having serious health problems, to boot.
    Logged

    Offline Last Tradhican

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 6293
    • Reputation: +3327/-1937
    • Gender: Male
    Re: List of priests not conditionally ordained in the SSPX
    « Reply #5 on: December 04, 2018, 03:36:46 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: verilyCatholic on December 04, 2018, 02:34:55 PM
    My nearest SSPX chapel (2X monthly) has taken on a new priory, that in Phoenix. I need Confession, because I have fallen into sin again. I am distressed at having the choice of a doubtfully ordained priest from Phoenix or a trip of over 200 miles to a Lefebvre ordained priest. Help!! And I'm old and having serious health problems, to boot.
    There are more than one priest in Phoenix, call specifically for the ones that are SSPX ordained. I doubt you have more than one Novus Ordo converted priest there.
    Logged
    The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24

    Offline 2Vermont

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 10051
    • Reputation: +5251/-916
    • Gender: Female
    Re: List of priests not conditionally ordained in the SSPX
    « Reply #6 on: December 04, 2018, 03:50:05 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on December 04, 2018, 03:36:46 PM
    There are more than one priest in Phoenix, call specifically for the ones that are SSPX ordained. I doubt you have more than one Novus Ordo converted priest there.
    And make sure he is going to be in the confessional that given day.  Otherwise, you don't know who is behind the screen.
    Logged
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)

    Offline Neil Obstat

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 18177
    • Reputation: +8276/-692
    • Gender: Male
    Re: List of priests not conditionally ordained in the SSPX
    « Reply #7 on: December 20, 2018, 03:41:58 AM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: 2Vermont on December 04, 2018, 03:50:05 PM
    And make sure he is going to be in the confessional that given day.  Otherwise, you don't know who is behind the screen.
    .
    If you arrive early, you can watch the priest enter the confessional. Then you know who's in there.
    .
    Alternatively, pull the fire alarm, and watch to see who comes out. (No, don't do that.)
    Logged
    .--. .-.-.- ... .-.-.- ..-. --- .-. - .... . -.- .. -. --. -.. --- -- --..-- - .... . .--. --- .-- . .-. .- -. -.. -....- -....- .--- ..- ... - -.- .. -.. -.. .. -. --. .-.-.

    Offline 2Vermont

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 10051
    • Reputation: +5251/-916
    • Gender: Female
    Re: List of priests not conditionally ordained in the SSPX
    « Reply #8 on: December 20, 2018, 12:25:26 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: Neil Obstat on December 20, 2018, 03:41:58 AM
    .
    If you arrive early, you can watch the priest enter the confessional. Then you know who's in there.
    .
    Alternatively, pull the fire alarm, and watch to see who comes out. (No, don't do that.)
    Yes, that's true.  But not everyone knows what a given priest looks like (especially if they are only going for confession and have never assisted at his mass before).  One would probably still have to ask another person on the confession line to know for sure.

    And lol at pulling the fire alarm.
    Logged
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)
    Pages: [1]
    « previous next »