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Aristotl · « **Reply #120 on:** June 25, 2020, 03:06:54 AM »

Quote from: 2Vermont on June 22, 2020, 11:54:40 AM

Xavier, I see you have returned to the forum since actively posting in this thread almost a month ago.

Could you respond to MM's question? If both orders and jurisdiction is required for Apostolic Succession for sede bishops, doesn't it also apply to the SSPX bishops? Do your SSPX bishops have apostolic succession? And if they do, why is that different than those sede bishops that trace their lineage from ABL and Thuc?

Thuc didn't have a Papal mandate and if he did it ended at the death of Pope Pius XI. Thuc was double-dipping making Bishops for both churches NO and Traditional.

2Vermont · « **Reply #121 on:** June 25, 2020, 05:39:45 AM »

Quote from: Aristotl on June 25, 2020, 03:06:54 AM

Thuc didn't have a Papal mandate and if he did it ended at the death of Pope Pius XI. Thuc was double-dipping making Bishops for both churches NO and Traditional.

I noticed you did not mention ABL. Why not?

Ladislaus · « **Reply #122 on:** June 25, 2020, 07:38:59 AM »

Quote from: Aristotl on June 25, 2020, 03:06:54 AM

Thuc didn't have a Papal mandate and if he did it ended at the death of Pope Pius XI. Thuc was double-dipping making Bishops for both churches NO and Traditional.

+Thuc did in fact have a papal mandate, and the docuмent has been produced and posted online. It has the exact same language as the mandate given to +d'Herbigny. As for whether it expired at the death of Pope Pius XI, that's highly debatable. Typically those types of things remain in force unless revoked by a subsequent Pope.

http://www.fraternitenotredame.com/2011_2_0/succession.php

Ladislaus · « **Reply #123 on:** June 25, 2020, 07:39:58 AM »

Quote from: 2Vermont on June 25, 2020, 05:39:45 AM

I noticed you did not mention ABL. Why not?

This is all in the interests of pushing this bogus Pius XII bishop as the only "pure" one left.

2Vermont · « **Reply #124 on:** June 25, 2020, 08:02:19 AM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on June 25, 2020, 07:39:58 AM

This is all in the interests of pushing this bogus Pius XII bishop as the only "pure" one left.

Ah, thank you for reminding me that Aristotl was that poster in that thread.

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