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Centroamerica · « **on:** April 11, 2018, 10:21:19 PM »

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/cardinals-can-declare-that-a-heretical-pope-has-lost-his-office-church-hist

Cardinals can declare that a heretical pope has ‘lost his office’: Church historian
Catholic , Heresy , Papolatry , Pope Benedict , Pope Francis , Roberto De Mattei

Professor Roberto de Mattei speaking at the 2018 Catholic Family News conference.Dave Reilly
DEERFIELD, IL, April 10, 2018 (LifeSiteNews) – True devotion to the Chair of St. Peter is essential to a Christian spiritual life, but today there exists a “false devotion” to the Pope that claims he “must always be obeyed, no matter what,” renowned Church historian Roberto de Mattei told a gathering of Catholics just outside Chicago this past weekend.
Speaking at the 2018 Catholic Family News conference, de Mattei called on laity and clergy alike to oppose the “theological error” of “papolatry” and to live out a “true devotion” to the papacy.
“True devotion to the Chair of Peter is not the worship of the man who occupies this Cathedra, but is the love and veneration for the mission which Jesus Christ gave to Peter and his successors.”
Professor de Mattei’s talk — delivered to approximately 100 Catholics hailing from multiple continents — touched on a variety of topics, including collegiality, the resignation of Pope Benedict XVI, and the claim that Pope Francis has fallen into heresy and is no longer pope.
Obedience to God first
Central to de Mattei’s hour-long address was an urgent request for Catholics to expose by name the pastors who contradict perennial Church teaching.
Opposing errors is not enough, Professor de Mattei said. “We need to have the courage to say: ‘Holy Father, you are the first one responsible for the confusion which exists today in the Church. Holy Father, you are the first one responsible for the heresies which are circulating in the Church today.’”
Papolatry views the Pope as a “new Christ.” It takes the position that “there is no need to worry about anything” and that the pope “perfects the doctrine of his predecessors, adapting it to the changing of the times.”
Papolatrists “deceive themselves” and “tranquilize” their conscience by thinking the pope is “always right, even when he contradicts himself or his predecessors.”
In reality, “Tradition remains the criterion for discerning that which is Catholic and that which is not.” “Tradition comes before the Pope and not the Pope before Tradition.” Otherwise the Church’s perennial magisterium is replaced with a “living” magisterium that has “its rule of faith in the subject of the authority and not in the object of the transmitted truth.”
Obedience to the Pope “has its limits in the natural and Divine Laws, and in the Tradition of the Church, of which the Pope is guardian and not creator.”
Catholics cannot remain silent
Professor de Mattei, who will be speaking at LifeSiteNews’ Roman Life Forum in May 2018, also pointed out that Catholics cannot succuмb to a “catacombist” mentality in response to the crisis in the Church.
Catholics cannot “retreat from the battlefield” and think they can “survive without fighting.” It is not permitted for a Christian to leave behind their militant attitude. “To make silence a rule of behavior...would be an error.” It would be to commit a guilty silence.
Who then must speak up and what must they do? Professor de Mattei said the responsibility falls not only on ordinary Catholics but also on Cardinals who in their silence “don't fulfill their duty.” It also falls on the shoulders of Pope Emeritus Benedict.
“The politics of silence has become a jail which imprisons many conservatives.” “Today is the moment to speak.” There has been a “modernist infiltration inside the Church” that is “wreaking havoc” in Rome. Catholics must oppose this infiltration with filial resistance, not with sarcasm, irreverence, bitter zeal, or pride.
Is the Pope Catholic?
Professor de Mattei then shared his thoughts on the historic resignation of Pope Benedict.
It is “incorrect” for Benedict to refer to himself as Pope Emeritus. Quoting Cardinal Brandmüller, de Mattei said “Canon Law doesn’t recognize the figure of a Pope Emeritus.” For Benedict to still dress in the white papal vestments and to still live in the Vatican “creates confusion,” de Mattei told LifeSiteNews. Benedict “seems to be convinced of still being Pope.” But “it is impossible that two Popes can exist. The Papacy is not dismountable: there can be only one Vicar of Christ.”
Professor de Mattei also addressed the increasingly relevant, and increasingly important, question of whether Pope Francis is still the pope.
After citing others scholars who have suggested Francis has fallen into heresy, de Mattei said “we must admit that the Pope himself promotes and propagates errors and heresies in the Church.” But, “as a tree can live for a certain time after its roots have been severed, so can jurisdiction be maintained...even after a fall into heresy. Jesus Christ maintains the person of the heretical Pontiff in his jurisdiction provisionally, until the Church recognizes the deposition.”
Speaking to LifeSiteNews, de Mattei said “nobody can depose the pope” but the Cardinals, can, in principle, “declare and recognize that being a heretic, [the pope] has lost his office.”
Until such a time comes, de Mattei added, Catholics must “clarify to people that unfortunately [Pope Francis] propagates heresy.” However, Francis “does not lose his office until his heresy becomes manifest” and widespread. This “has not yet happened.”
Occupying powers in Rome
Professor de Mattei proceeded to issue what appeared to be a warning to Catholics concerned with the direction Francis is leading the Church.
“We need to be careful of speaking of the ‘Bergoglian church,’ or of ‘the new Church.’ The Church today is occupied by churchmen who betray or deform the message of Christ, but it has not been substituted by another church. There is only one Catholic Church, in which they cohabitate in a confused and fragmentary way, different and counterpoised theologies and philosophies. It is more correct to speak of a ‘Bergoglian theology,’ of a ‘Bergoglian philosophy,’ and, if one wishes, of a ‘Bergoglian religion’ or ‘irreligion.’”
There are not two Churches, but one Church, he continued. It is, to be sure, a Church where bad tendencies have been introduced but it is a Church still governed visibly by its Vicar Pope Francis, whose election has not been contested by any Cardinal.
Professor de Mattei urged Catholics to unite themselves to “the good priests” inside of the one Church.
Assisting the auto-demolition of the Church
Drawing on his vast knowledge of Church history, Professor de Mattei explained how Pope Francis’ support for decentralization and collegiality is undermining the papacy.
Reminding his listeners of how ultramontanists were victorious at Vatican I, Professor de Mattei noted that the real protagonists of Vatican II were Liberal Catholics, and that among other things Liberal Catholics seek to transform the “monarchical and hierarchical constitution of the Church into a democratic and parliamentary structure.”
Professor de Mattei pointed out that this is precisely what Francis is attempting to do. He wants to usher in a “polycentric or multi-sided church” where the papacy is “conceived as a form of ministry at the service of the other churches, renouncing the juridical Primacy or government of Peter.”
But, de Mattei continued, such a view of the papacy runs counter to what has been handed down through the ages. The Pope is not an equal with the other Bishops. “Jesus Christ entrusted the mission of governing to Peter, after the Resurrection.” To democratize the Church and to “reduce her to a purely-sacramental dimension” is to “transition from a juridical Church to a sacramental Church, a Church of communion.”
Moreover, Professor de Mattei added, to destroy the Primacy of Peter is to accomplish what the enemies of Christ have been attempting to do for centuries because “they have understood that it comprises the visible foundation of the Mystical Body [of Christ].”
Editor's note: Read the full text of Professor de Mattei’s talk here.

Maria Regina · « **Reply #1 on:** April 12, 2018, 01:24:43 AM »

Professor Roberto de Mattei delivered a great speech. Thanks for posting.

Many people refer to the NewChurch or the Vatican II Church as if there are two churches, but Christ's Holy Church is undivided. Those who preach heresy are outside of the Church.

Maria Regina · « **Reply #2 on:** April 12, 2018, 02:32:29 AM »

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Pope Issues Exhortation -- Demagogic Piety on the March
by Christopher A. Ferrara

Francis Says:
Contemplative orders apart from the world are unhealthy
The Church does not have all the answers and should not tell people how to live
Catholic doctrine is subject to different interpretations
Strong attachment to Catholic doctrine and discipline is Pelagianism
Even with the aid of grace it is impossible for “the weak” to keep the moral law
Observant Catholics are heartless Pelagian curators of a religious museum who reject “the Spirit”:
Any public opposition by the faithful to Bergoglian designs is defamation inspired by the devil
The defenders of orthodoxy are heartless judges who look down on others
CNN exulted over Francis's “pointed rebuke to Catholic anti-abortion activists who focus on the issue to the exclusion of all others.”

Now the question being raised by the faithful, both clergy and laity, is whether there is any mechanism by which the Church can be freed from Bergoglio’s clutches before he inflicts still more damage upon her.

It appears as if Christopher A. Ferrara agrees with Dr. Roberto de Mattei that something needs to be done about Francis and his openly heretical remarks.

Already millions believe that "any public opposition by the faithful to Bergoglian designs is defamation inspired by the devil." They have been brainwashed into believing the propaganda of Francis.

Do we have to wait until Francis utters blasphemy and denies Christ?

Look at the sneering and angry picture below. Look at that angry fist.

He is most likely saying, "Any public opposition by the faithful to me is defamation inspired by the devil."

Remember the saying of Lord Acton: "Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely."

Centroamerica · « **Reply #3 on:** April 12, 2018, 12:23:23 PM »

Bergoglio could literally state that the Catholic Church no longer exists and that Christ is not God and there would be at least three more books written defending the idea of a “heretic pope”.

Centroamerica · « **Reply #4 on:** April 12, 2018, 12:27:45 PM »

Quote from: Centroamerica on April 12, 2018, 12:23:23 PM

Bergoglio could literally state that the Catholic Church no longer exists and that Christ is not God and there would be at least three more books written defending the idea of a “heretic pope”.

Like this book by a self-professed Thomist philosopher in Brazil. Or the Robert Siscoe junk. The list goes on I’m sure. Coming out of the woodwork since Bergoglio.

songbird · « **Reply #5 on:** April 12, 2018, 06:44:17 PM »

We have had Anti-popes before and that should be no shock to Catholics who read their history. I suggest readings of Cardinal Manning "The Temporal Powers of the Vicar of Christ" which can be read at www.archives. Also he and Pope Leo XIII brought Vatican I to us. We must read what inspired them to have Vatican I. To define Pope, was necessary to be able to come to Infallibility. Cardinal Manning and Pope Leo XIII knowing the conversation between Lucifer and Christ wondered about heretical popes and what would come to be. Very good reading!

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