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Offline Catholictrue

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Lies In Book True Or False Pope?
« on: May 31, 2016, 06:19:43 PM »
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    • Video: On 'Fr.' Gruner, The Last Days & Lies In Book 'True Or False Pope'?



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    « Reply #1 on: May 31, 2016, 08:58:28 PM »
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    • Saint Malalchy.  He wrote a list of Popes.  We are on the last one.  Stand strong.  We have a Pope.  We are on the last one.  St. Malachy is Canonized a Saint, and is a prophecy you can trust.  No need for true or false Pope, it's in his list.
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    « Reply #2 on: May 31, 2016, 10:35:59 PM »
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    • Saints who were on the earth were not perfect.  They too made statements only to come back and refute them.
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    « Reply #3 on: May 31, 2016, 10:37:20 PM »
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    • Fr. Gruner was of the dioceses.  New Order.
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    « Reply #4 on: May 31, 2016, 10:40:38 PM »
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    • I have no problem with Saint Malalchy but wonder if was counting the false popes in his count.  

    I suppose we will know soon enough.
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    « Reply #5 on: June 01, 2016, 07:54:01 AM »
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    Fr. Gruner was of the dioceses.  New Order.


    Invalidly ordained whose apostolate depended on there being a valid Pope.
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    « Reply #6 on: June 01, 2016, 10:07:42 AM »
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    Fr. Gruner was of the dioceses.  New Order.


    Invalidly ordained whose apostolate depended on there being a valid Pope.


    Doubtfully ordained.  Yet another case where you elevate an opinion of yours to the level of unassailable truth.
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    « Reply #7 on: June 01, 2016, 10:08:50 AM »
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    Video: On 'Fr.' Gruner, The Last Days & Lies In Book 'True Or False Pope'?



    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/embed/wimtUJZHPMY?feature=player_detailpage[/youtube]


    Another excellent video. There is nothing I can argue with there.

    Every major mainline player (The Remnant, Catholic Family News, Michael Voris etc.) in the "traditionalist" movement would lose practically all their income if they were to tell the truth  about the conciliar church, THAT is what made them and Fr. Gruner always defend the likes of John Paul II, no matter what. It is all about money! They sold/sell out for money.

    The Dimond's could care less about money, they do everything for free, and they could care less if it puts off the audience. They are a unique blend, the most rare of traditionalists, sedevacantes and strict EENSers. Only someone with strong convictions would take that stand. Something to admire.
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    « Reply #8 on: June 01, 2016, 11:28:39 AM »
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    Another excellent video. There is nothing I can argue with there.

    Every major mainline player (The Remnant, Catholic Family News, Michael Voris etc.) in the "traditionalist" movement would lose practically all their income if they were to tell the truth  about the conciliar church, THAT is what made them and Fr. Gruner always defend the likes of John Paul II, no matter what. It is all about money! They sold/sell out for money.

    The Dimond's could care less about money, they do everything for free, and they could care less if it puts off the audience. They are a unique blend, the most rare of traditionalists, sedevacantes and strict EENSers. Only someone with strong convictions would take that stand. Something to admire.


    How do you know they are not interested in money?  They also edit everything someone says to their benefit, by recording and the use of cameras to edit later, meaning they are not trustworthy.  

    The only reason you hold them up is because they preach  erroneous views as did Fr. Feeney who  was only emphasising to prove a point to some heretics and when he realised how his actions were going amok he recanted them on his death bed anyway.

      May Fr. Feeney  RIP.  
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    « Reply #9 on: June 01, 2016, 11:29:45 AM »
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    Fr. Gruner was of the dioceses.  New Order.


    Invalidly ordained whose apostolate depended on there being a valid Pope.


    Doubtfully ordained.  Yet another case where you elevate an opinion of yours to the level of unassailable truth.


    Invalid; Doubtfully,  why mince words, they practically mean the same thing.  
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    « Reply #10 on: June 01, 2016, 11:42:21 AM »
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    • Ladislaus has a personal issue with me because he cannot refute the teaching I present on BOD and this angers him greatly.

    As all who know anything about anything will readily grant the fact is that he was ordained using a formula of doubtful validity, and hence it must in practice to be treated as invalid.

    The formula is of doubtful validity because a word specified by Pope Pius XII in 1947 as being part of the essential form was missing.
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    « Reply #11 on: June 01, 2016, 12:46:40 PM »
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    The only reason you hold them up is because they preach  erroneous views as did Fr. Feeney who  was only emphasising to prove a point to some heretics and when he realised how his actions were going amok he recanted them on his death bed anyway.

      May Fr. Feeney  RIP.  


    You really should not post that which you know nothing about Myrna.

    FYI, Fr. Feeney did not recant anything on his death bed. Do you honestly believe he recanted defending the sacraments and dogmas? Worse yet, do you honestly believe to recant such things is a good thing? something that a Catholic does or should be praised for doing? Shame on you.

    Do you know that Fr. Feeney received the last sacraments before he died? Yes, those sacraments which he defended during his life, against even his own superiors. Our gracious Lord did not abandon him, rather, Our Lord provided the last sacraments for Fr. Feeney, same as he provides them for all who ever have and ever will receive them.
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    « Reply #12 on: June 01, 2016, 12:54:54 PM »
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    • Did Aquinas recant defending the Sacraments when he taught BOD?
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    « Reply #13 on: June 01, 2016, 12:57:24 PM »
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    Did Aquinas recant defending the Sacraments when he taught BOD?


    Read your own signature once in a while.
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    « Reply #14 on: June 01, 2016, 12:58:26 PM »
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